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Need help deciding(10 posts)

Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 19, 2002 10:39 AM
Hello, I'm looking to get into road riding. I have narrowed the choice down to the Jamis Ventura for $850 or the Jamis Quest for about $1000. The problem with the Quest is it has a dent in the frame from shipping (need to visually see the damage first, then decide). So my question is how much of a diffence does the carbon fiber fork really make? I'm not looking to do any races, just casual road riding averaging 10 to 30 miles a ride.
re: Need help decidingVelocipedio
Mar 19, 2002 10:52 AM
If I'm not mistaken, they're steel frames, which means that, if it's a slight ding, it shouldn't matter [but don't pay full price]. If the two bikes are identical except for the CF fork, then buy the $850, undented, bike and spend $150 on a CF fork...
re: Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 19, 2002 11:09 AM
Yes they are both steel frames but the Ventura($850) is a lower quality frame compared to the Quest(normally $1350 but thru the scratch and dent sale it's about $1000). I know the Quest has all Shimano 105 and the Ventura has all Shimano Tiagra.
re: Need help decidingpmf1
Mar 19, 2002 12:08 PM
I'd get the one with better components and the carbon fork. If you wait and upgrade the fork later, a carbon fork is around $150 minimum and then you'll have to pay your LBS to install it. That's a waste of money. Plus, 105 are much better components than Tiagra. And a carbon fork is worth paying extra for. If the scratch/dent isn't going to harm the structural integrity of the bike, and you can live with it (sooner or later it''ll get scratched), then go for the better model.
I second that. Get the Quest.tempeteKerouak
Mar 19, 2002 12:59 PM
I'll 3rd it. Sounds like the better deal. (nm)look271
Mar 19, 2002 6:15 PM
Mar 19, 2002 1:26 PM
Pay a little more now or pay a lot more later. That is the rule of bike lust. There is no preventitive to the sickness that I know of. Ask what sort of deal they'll make you for some Ultegra rather than 105 based wheels.
re: Need help decidingraboboy
Mar 19, 2002 11:18 AM
Based on what you said you are going to do for riding, i'd say go with the Ventura, and use the extra $150 for clothes, shoes, pedals, helmet or something like that.

The Quest also has 105 components instead of Tiagra, which is a bigger difference than the fork i think.
Oh, and the Quest uses 631 steel rather than 520.
Heh, and there are Cosmos for wheels on the Quest.
Ok, there there are alot of differences and $150 seems to be a good deal for the upgrade. If the frame is dinged, isn't there some kind of warranty that'll get it replaced? If so, then that may be a good road to take.

Hmm, i guess I didn't really answer your question. ha
re: Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 20, 2002 5:15 AM
Thanks Everybody. It turns out that bike shop got the dented/damaged bikes today and the Quest is a 2001 and he's going to remark the price, so today I'm going to go look at the bike and see how bad the dinge is in the frame.
re: Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 22, 2002 12:24 PM
UPDATE: I bought the 2K1 Quest used with about 200 miles on it for $900. No dents, they are going to replaced the pedals to 2 sided clipless and new seat. Thanks Everybody