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Need help deciding(10 posts)

Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 19, 2002 10:39 AM
Hello, I'm looking to get into road riding. I have narrowed the choice down to the Jamis Ventura for $850 or the Jamis Quest for about $1000. The problem with the Quest is it has a dent in the frame from shipping (need to visually see the damage first, then decide). So my question is how much of a diffence does the carbon fiber fork really make? I'm not looking to do any races, just casual road riding averaging 10 to 30 miles a ride.
Thanks,
Scooter
re: Need help decidingVelocipedio
Mar 19, 2002 10:52 AM
If I'm not mistaken, they're steel frames, which means that, if it's a slight ding, it shouldn't matter [but don't pay full price]. If the two bikes are identical except for the CF fork, then buy the $850, undented, bike and spend $150 on a CF fork...
re: Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 19, 2002 11:09 AM
Yes they are both steel frames but the Ventura($850) is a lower quality frame compared to the Quest(normally $1350 but thru the scratch and dent sale it's about $1000). I know the Quest has all Shimano 105 and the Ventura has all Shimano Tiagra.
re: Need help decidingpmf1
Mar 19, 2002 12:08 PM
I'd get the one with better components and the carbon fork. If you wait and upgrade the fork later, a carbon fork is around $150 minimum and then you'll have to pay your LBS to install it. That's a waste of money. Plus, 105 are much better components than Tiagra. And a carbon fork is worth paying extra for. If the scratch/dent isn't going to harm the structural integrity of the bike, and you can live with it (sooner or later it''ll get scratched), then go for the better model.
I second that. Get the Quest.tempeteKerouak
Mar 19, 2002 12:59 PM
I'll 3rd it. Sounds like the better deal. (nm)look271
Mar 19, 2002 6:15 PM
yepTroyboy
Mar 19, 2002 1:26 PM
Pay a little more now or pay a lot more later. That is the rule of bike lust. There is no preventitive to the sickness that I know of. Ask what sort of deal they'll make you for some Ultegra rather than 105 based wheels.
re: Need help decidingraboboy
Mar 19, 2002 11:18 AM
Based on what you said you are going to do for riding, i'd say go with the Ventura, and use the extra $150 for clothes, shoes, pedals, helmet or something like that.

The Quest also has 105 components instead of Tiagra, which is a bigger difference than the fork i think.
Oh, and the Quest uses 631 steel rather than 520.
Heh, and there are Cosmos for wheels on the Quest.
Ok, there there are alot of differences and $150 seems to be a good deal for the upgrade. If the frame is dinged, isn't there some kind of warranty that'll get it replaced? If so, then that may be a good road to take.

Hmm, i guess I didn't really answer your question. ha
re: Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 20, 2002 5:15 AM
Thanks Everybody. It turns out that bike shop got the dented/damaged bikes today and the Quest is a 2001 and he's going to remark the price, so today I'm going to go look at the bike and see how bad the dinge is in the frame.
Thanks,
Scooter
re: Need help decidingscoot1212
Mar 22, 2002 12:24 PM
UPDATE: I bought the 2K1 Quest used with about 200 miles on it for $900. No dents, they are going to replaced the pedals to 2 sided clipless and new seat. Thanks Everybody