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Stupid question, What lubricant?(12 posts)

Stupid question, What lubricant?Krypton
Mar 18, 2002 12:47 PM
Hi all,

I've always used the same lube on the chain of my mountain bike and road bike (I've been doing that for the last 14 years!). It's a wet lube that works well on the mountain bike and even tough my chain is greassy and black after a ride, I always wash my bike after each ride and degrease the chain and re-lube. Now, on my road bike, I'm looking to use a cleaner lube cause I'm having to degrease weekly. I've heard lots of good comments on the white lightning product.

What do you guys use?

thanks for the info
KY jelly only, don't use vasaline!Barnyard
Mar 18, 2002 12:51 PM
re: Stupid question, What lubricant?Slipstream
Mar 18, 2002 1:04 PM
Lubricant is an area of considerable controversy. Different people will tell you different things.

Which is best? Use different lubes for different conditions. All-condition lubes typically will
not meet the claims of the manufacturer. Wax-based lubes tend to build up and get sticky, trapping dirt. Self-cleaning wax-based lubes only work if your initial application is on a clean chain; if not you're in for trouble.

Less is more. Too much and you attract and hold dirt. It is then pulled through your drivetrain and causes wear. It is easy to over-apply aerosol chain lubricants.

With the exception of extremely dirty or wet conditions--T-9 Boeshield is a great product. It stays clean and washes off easily once dirty. Also, it can be used near plastics and rubber and without damage.
re: Stupid question, What lubricant?dsc
Mar 18, 2002 2:49 PM
Having recently joined the ranks of the road bikers (6 mos. now, as opposed to 10+ yrs. mtb), I, too, am in search of the perfect chain lube for my road bike.
Never liked White Lightning on my mtb, so haven't even given that a thought. Always (and still do) used TriFlow on the mtb, but found that it just attracts too much gunk on the road (and I want to keep those expensive Ti cogs in back as clean as possible!) Tried what was left of an old bottle of Pedros Extra Dry lube - that was OK, then decided to give the Ice Wax a try - POS! Used it twice and both times, at the end of a 4 hr ride, it sounded like I was riding on a bone dry chain.
I am now trying out ProLink. So far, so good. It even seemed to hold up during the quick downpour I got caught in Saturday. I have also heard good things about Boeshields.
My search for the perfect road lube continues... good luck!

re: What lubricant?Chen2
Mar 18, 2002 2:58 PM
I agree with Slipstream. Boeshield T-9 is my favorite chain and drive-train lubricant, but dropper bottle, not the spray, it's too messy. I wipe the chain down really well with a rag and then apply one drop of T-9 to each link. Then, as the instructions say, I let the bike sit for at least 4 hours. Boeshield was developed by Boeing and is also popular with the marine industry.
re: Stupid question, What lubricant?k mand
Mar 18, 2002 5:05 PM
Try Prolink. It self cleans. I've had much better luck with it than White Lightening.
Not White Lightning...mr_spin
Mar 18, 2002 5:05 PM
Lube tends to produce religious wars on this forum, but my opinion is that White Lightning is great for MTB, not for road. I took it with when I did a 5-day trip on the Kokopelli Trail and it worked great in all the sand and stream crossings.

But...I don't even like it for MTB either. I stopped using wax lubes mainly because it's almost impossible to get the chain and cassette shiny clean once you've used it. That stuff NEVER comes off. You have to keep using the same stuff, so you are making a committment. On a 5-day trip, bring the White Lightning. For a 2-hour ride, you'll spend two more hours getting the chain clean! Sure, someone will tell you "it's no problem, take the chain off and use gasoline" or "boil it in water with the strings from Sting's bass guitar" or "dip the bike in the Ganges and chant from the Kama Sutra." Forget it. It's not worth the trouble.

Finally, mountain biking is a lot harder on components than road biking (if you are doing it right!). For my road bike I find White Lightning to be a little thick. I want something more viscous, like Prolink or T-9, or for a little thicker mix, the Finish Line stuff. Stick with any of these and you will be happy. Or at least your bike will be.
Prolink nmgtx
Mar 18, 2002 6:32 PM
Mar 18, 2002 7:27 PM
Works great, lasts fairly long, is easy to clean off, and 1 bottle lasts forever. White lightning, IMHO, sucks for road riding.
There Are No Stupid Questions...joeg26er
Mar 18, 2002 8:23 PM
Only Stupid answers...

Hopefully my answers will help you.

I do not like Tri-flow. It attracts way too much dirt and it slings everywhere.

I used Raleigh clean lube - (no longer available?) - it got gummy after a while.

I prefer a system approach to chain lube/care. Use the Finish Line Krytech combined with the finish line chain cleaner/degreaser. Nice little drip bottle, very accurate application.

Very clean lube - your drivetrain will look like new.
I like to apply a couple "coats" and let it set up before a ride. Not extremely long lasting but the cleanest lube I have ever used.

Wear is kept to a minimum if you run the chain through the cleaner/degreaser at least once per week.

If your chain is greasy and black, I would suggest changing to a new chain before using a new lube. Mixing lubes is not good - some will break the other down and others may combine and do who knows what -better to have a fresh start.

The purists among us may say that one should completely soak a new chain in a degreaser and run it through a cleaner to get rid of the packing lube/grease that all new chains have. This may not be such a bad idea. That packing grease/oil tends to be quite sticky and probably impedes the effectiveness of the lube you are trying to use.
Mar 19, 2002 6:00 AM
Thanks for all the answers. Since I will be getting my new bike in about a month and a half, I wanted to start with the best lube for it. So I'll research all of your suggestions and make a choice based on that research.

Thanks again
Mar 19, 2002 7:36 PM
Have tried many, many lubes. I like this one best, but make sure your chain is clean before applying it the first time.