|Waiting to win lottery to buy dream bike...||Andor|
Mar 18, 2002 8:05 AM
|Why are bikes so damn expensive?? I was debating the other day whether I should buy a Colnago C40 Record bike or a ZX7 motorcycle. They were both about $4500. Then it hit me. Umm... the motorcycle has an engine!! I could not justify the price of the bicycle. I mean c'mon, it's a BICYCLE! Nothing special about it... Why would I need a C-40 with all Record anyway? I'm not a pro, and if I was I'd be getting paid to ride on five grand. If I want to get closer to pro fitness level, I might as well be riding around a nice 40 pounder bicycle.|
|Try this approach: The personal shame of knowing . . .||morrison|
Mar 18, 2002 8:10 AM
|how much you threw into the bike will motivate you to ride the damn thing 25 hrs a day, 8 days a week!|
|then get the motorcycle||ColnagoFE|
Mar 18, 2002 8:14 AM
|Still even the most expensive combo you can think up on a bike is not gonna be more than $10k. What car can you buy for 10K? Let alone a fancy sports car. Buy what makes you happy though, but that motorcycle ain't gonna help you stay in shape as well as the bike.|
|then get the motorcycle||Andor|
Mar 18, 2002 8:24 AM
|Yeah, I did get the motorcycle, And I do stay in shape by riding my old mountain bike that weighs a ton. I betcha I get a better workout than all the Roadies with top gear. Ofcourse, bottom line is you buy what makes you happy! It just pisses me of that I can't buy a C40 to make myself happy! Cycling is a hobby, or better yet an addiction. Companies such as Colnago turn huge profits off of regular everyday cyclists that need their fix. I'm off to check my lottery #'s...|
|not sure about that...||SteveO|
Mar 18, 2002 8:55 AM
|didja ever see colnago's corporate HQ vs. kawasakis? Who's turning huge profits?
The difference stems partially from mechanized production. Being a mcycling enthusiast, you realize youre ZX7 is a lot cheaper than a (largely) hand-made buell.
Likewise, mass-produced bicycles are going to be less expensive (and arguably, of less quality) than a high-quality specialty.
Mar 18, 2002 6:03 PM
|depends totally on how hard you go, not what you are riding. If I tie a cinder block on a rope behind by racing bike, I don't get more of a workout, I just go a lot slower for the effort I put out. Regards your concern, it is hardly fair to compare a top of the line racing bicycle with a low-mid motorcycle. Hey, you can buy a big screen TV, DVD player, and surround sound systme for a lot less than $4K, but what does that have to do with the price of a C40?|
|If you bought the motorcycle, then||pmf1|
Mar 19, 2002 12:58 PM
|cycling is not an addiction for you. No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to buy a Colnago. They don't fiddle with the chemical content of sports drinks to drive you to buy a Colnago. You do it because it makes you happy. |
So enjoy your motorcycle. I'm not griping about your motorcycle, so quit griping about my C-40. If you had really wanted one, you would have bought it. You could have afforded it, you just wanted the motorcycle more. Life is about choices and you made yours.
|re: Waiting to win lottery to buy dream bike...||Troyboy|
Mar 18, 2002 8:28 AM
|There are so very many people with oh so much more than $5000 burning in their pockets to be spent....
Just look at how many MB SUVs are on the road. There is about as much utility in one of those as a hammer with no handle.
|to be fair, you cant get a NEW zx7 for 4500.||SteveO|
Mar 18, 2002 8:49 AM
|if so, please plug your local shop.
I do agree, though about the 40 pounder; for the typical fitness enthusiast, it seems counterproductive to seek out that lighter/sleeker machine.
|OK but consider this motorcycle scenario first....||k mand|
Mar 18, 2002 5:38 PM
|Your're right it is crazy and people think we're all crazy for spending the cash we do on bikes, but it's like anything else in life. I rode motorcycles for many years. So to put it in perspective, the C40 equivalent of a motorcycle would be a full race, carbon laiden Ducati 998 Super Sport for over $25,000. The ZX7 equivalent is probably a $1000 Trek with toe clips and a quill stem and SORA. You are right it is overblown but when you love something, money is no object. Also, I could be throwing money away at cigarettes, whores, a gambling problem, and drugs too. Atleast the bikes are healthy. No wonder my fiance supports my riding!|
|OK but consider this motorcycle scenario first....||SteveO|
Mar 19, 2002 7:01 AM
|"equivalent is probably a $1000 Trek with toe clips and a quill stem and SORA. You are right it is overblown but when you love something, money is no object."
i agree with your analogy, but take exception to the 'money is no object' bit.... MANY enthusiasts choose to invest their money in more important aspects of life.
i could argue that those who opt to make the most with what they have love the sport even more. Neither my $1000 trek with quill stem, nor my 12 year-old raleigh with bargain-bins parts, detracts from my love (or skill) of bicycling
|I agree with you, but....||k mand|
Mar 20, 2002 7:49 AM
|I can't tailor my response for sensitivity with the whole world in mind. I understand your point and I wasn't trying to come off as some elitist asshole and I supported your opinion with what I wrote. My point was, I didn't care about the money and if cycling is just a weekend hobby, don't consider a c40. When I was putting myself through college, I could not even consider a SORA spec'd Trek. I had to piece together a second hand bike (and figure out how to wrench) for $400. I am greatful that I'm in a position to buy whatever I want. Will it make me a better rider, no. Will I enjoy riding more? Absolutely. Do I NEED it, no? Do I ride with people who have SORA spec'd bikes? All the time. By the way, "the more important aspects in my life" that take priority over cycling include my family and friends.|
|and your point is???||grandemamou|
Mar 19, 2002 6:54 AM
|No one "needs" a Colnago or a zx7 motorcycle. A single speed bike or moped will do the job. Most people are not satisfied with those solutions though, myself included. I spent my "own" hard earned money on a top flite race rig. It did not make me any faster but it did help me enjoy my cycling experience and ride more.
I find it curious that lots of people are "concerned" about how other people spend "their" money. Rest assured my family and most others on this board families are properly fed and clothed and can spend fairly freely on toys.
If you "need" transportation go for the moto. If you "need" a race bike buy the Colnago.
|Both bad ideas....||muncher|
Mar 19, 2002 7:15 AM
|Get the ZX9 - you'll appreciate the bit of extra grunt, and it'l still out handle any non pro rider ;-]|
|Got to agree there.||Miklos|
Mar 19, 2002 7:38 AM
|I love my ZX9R. Pulls like a tracktor at low rpms with a very strong top end. My wifes ZX6R ain't too bad power wise for a 600 either.
In the picture, the 6R is the front bike 9R is the one in the back. For camping trips in the summer, I haul them in my snowmobile trailer (in the background) along with MTB's and the road bikes.
|Nice one - hard to beat that for a set-up. (nm)||muncher|
Mar 19, 2002 9:52 AM
|Its not that expensive of a hobby||pmf1|
Mar 19, 2002 10:32 AM
|Considering that you can buy the absolute top of the line bike for $4500 that is ridden by pros and drooled on by everyone for $4500 is not that bad when you think about it. Can you do the same with a car, motorcycle, boat, snow mobile, etc? I'm not talking about a ZX7 motorcycle either, I'm thinking top of the line Harley, A Ferrari, a big speed boat. I look upon cycling as one of the few hobbies where almost anyone can afford (if they really wanted to) the top of the line. Even stereo equipment is several times more expensive. Hell, you can blow $25,000 on a set of speakers. |
And there's nothing like a new, fancy bike. Especially your first one. I wanted to sleep with it. All I did every weekend was ride it. A 40 pound bike would not have inspired me. In fact, it would be hanging in the basement gathering mold right now.
Mar 19, 2002 11:58 AM
|the harley was a bad example....the little zx-7 outclasses the 'top of the line' harley. 1/3 the cost; greater output and handling.
Thats besides the point, youre right in that the ferrari costs many times more than a standard car... but the ferrari also outperforms the standard car by many times. Performance gains could exceed 200 percent over the common.
Show me a 4500 dollar bike with a 200 percent gain over a huffy. It doesnt exist.
|Harley is all style, nothing to do with performance...||tz|
Mar 19, 2002 12:13 PM
|It is about the looks, the feel, the sound of the ride, not about power/weight ratios, cornering, and cost.
Comparing Harley-Davidsons to Japanese racing bikes is like comparing Rolls-Royce limos to Italian sports cars.
|thus my point (though 'style' is subjective). nm||SteveO|
Mar 19, 2002 12:20 PM