|Caad 5 ????||Natchez|
Mar 15, 2002 12:42 AM
The local LBS has caad 5 frames with campy integrated headsets and slice fork with alloy steerer for 599$
I am riding an older bottom of the line ti bike it is a 55cm The top tube fits me fine I run a 110 stem. The seat tube and subsequent standover leave much to be desired. I have much more then the one inch recommended standover.
I am built with long legs and a short torso. I have like six inches of seat post out and a bunch of spacers and riser stem. Any way the lbs told me he would trade me even for the frame. I only have 1000$ in my Ti bike. I am concered about the ride differances. How does the caad 5 ride. I ride several centurys a year and do some long training rides will I feel alot of differance between a straight gage ti and the manipulated caad 5? If I put a carbon seat post on the Caad 5 would it make it more compliant
|Caad 5 - Nice Ride||jagiger|
Mar 15, 2002 3:47 AM
|I got a Cannondale R2000si last year & I love it. I felt that it was plenty comfortable in my 1st Century. I've wondered what all the comotion was regarding aluminum as I have not complaints. This was my 1st big upgrade though, so I don't have alot to compare with (last bike was a '75 peugot, steel). Evidently, they come a long way with the alum & the carbon fork seems to make a difference.
In theory a carbon seat post may help, but opionions vary.
The frame sounds a little small. You might go up a size or two & reduce the stem length to compensate. If nothing is available, I'd stay with your current bike, even though I like the CAAD5 frame.
|re: Caad 5 ????||netso|
Mar 15, 2002 3:57 AM
|I have an r2000si and a r4000si (CAAD5&6), I love them. I have owned both for over 1 year. They are comfortable, stiff, compliant and light. I also heard the bad things about aluminum being harsh, I can tell you in my case they are wrong.|
|the old aluminum vs ti debate||RayBan|
Mar 15, 2002 6:26 AM
|I've owned a Caad5 road bike and I also owned a ti mtb. The best comparison would be a road to road comparison but I CAN tell you the CAAD5 was light and stiff. It is made comfortable by the addition of a carbon fork. The ti bike I owned was comfortable but had a flexyness too it that I didn't like. I own a aluminum mtb (by Cannondale) and I like its ride quality better than the ti bikes ride quality.|
Mar 15, 2002 6:27 AM
|After switching back and forth between a Thompson alloy, Campy ti, and Advanced Composites carbon seatpost, using the same frame and saddle, I am absolutely unable to discern ANY difference in the ride. I wanted to, but I couldn't.|
|id find a compact frame||ishmael|
Mar 15, 2002 6:29 AM
|the new geometry of compact frames suits people with long legs and a short torso...they generally come with a long headtube, short top tube and low standover height...giant, k2, specialized(i think), and abici make them...and im sure a bunch of other companies too, the giant is a great deal...|
|I ride a CAAD5 and a ti. The CAAD5 is very stiff . . .||morrison|
Mar 15, 2002 8:06 AM
|and responsive. It's a great climbing bike, and gives me a lot of security at high speeds. The ti is spongier, and not as good a climbing bike, which is important to me, because I spend most of my time riding in the hills. That said, I tried a century on the CAAD5, and I don't think I'll do it again. I would note, though, that the carbon fork helps, and I've never tried a carbon seat post.
Will your LBS let you do an extended test ride? If you can do 30-40 mi w/out discomfort, you should be fine. (That's usually when it sets in for me, at least.) Put aside the comfort issue, and you can't go wrong with the frame!
|re: Caad 5 ????||Jekyll|
Mar 15, 2002 10:57 AM
|I have a CAAD4 Saeco frame/fork (same as 5 without integrated headset). While its not the most "comfortable" ride I've ever had it is far, far better than previous C-Dale offerings (particularly those with straight seat stays).
I like the bike, I can't say that its overly harsh but its definitely not a plush ride like some of the steel or ti stuff I have owned and test ridden. The frame is responsive to a fault. There is no give in the rear end when it comes to power transfer. Climbs very well and handles equally well. I spent a bunch of time on a LS Ultimate last year and did not find that particular ti frame to be any more comfortable than the Canny. I'm not bashing LS - I own one.
I do have a CF USE post and I can't say I noticed any difference in the ride - I do notice a pretty big difference when riding it with Ksyriums vs Rev-X's (Rev-X are more comfortable).
The Canny is pretty square (my 56 also has a 56cm top tube). If you have long legs and a short torso you might want to look at something that has a bit of a more "traditional Italian" geometry with a little shorter top tube in a given frame size (Colnago comes to mind but the price is a bit higher than $599).
|re: Caad 5 ????||CT1|
Mar 15, 2002 5:12 PM
|Long legs and short torso ====> lots of standover clearance. Unless you can find a frame with an unusually short tt this is going to be the way it is.
I haven't looked at the Dale geo chart recently so I can't remember what the #'s are. I remember my frame being a bit long in the TT though.
I had a Cadd5 for about a month and put about 1K miles on it. The frame is VERY stiff and will likely ride MUCH harsher than your ti frame. If you can handle the stiffer ride AND the Dale geometry fits you, then go for it.
FWIW: your frame doesn't sound like it fits you bad. An 11cm stem is just about perfect. DON'T WORRY ABOUT STANDOVER or stem spacers. As long as you have an alloy steerer spacers are NOT important. I think your frame sounds like a good fit and I highly doubt the Dale will fit any different.
|I'd stay with Ti||cyclopathic|
Mar 16, 2002 1:33 AM
|even nice Al won't match steel/Ti quality ride. I doubt you'd see that much diff on a century ride and under unless roads are really bad. The difference will be quite noticable on double century.|
|re: Caad 5 ????||rs1115|
Mar 16, 2002 11:59 AM
|which bike shop?|
|re: Caad 5 ????||DrPete|
Mar 16, 2002 12:26 PM
|My experience has been with a CAAD 3 frame, which is much less comfy than the CAAD5 from what I've read/seen. At any rate, I've found that a good carbon fork up front and a Syncros Ti seatpost in the rear have made for a schweet ride. I didn't think it was possible, but the Ti seatpost made a BIG difference. I've ridden a couple centuries on the CAAD 3 with the carbon/Ti setup and am very happy, and you just can't beat the way a Cannondale climbs. By the way, I'm also 6'2, 215lb. Good luck with the new ride, whatever it may be!|| |