|Tire choice of the Pros||collinsc|
Mar 14, 2002 7:22 PM
|I was looking at this little pamphlet that came with my Vittorias and found this big listing of races won on vittoria tires and by who and when...
So I was wondering, what does our pal Lance ride on?
|re: that was (obviously) TDF, they listed a bunch more too||collinsc|
Mar 14, 2002 7:27 PM
|Your vittoria's are not the same||spookyload|
Mar 14, 2002 8:14 PM
|Back then they were handmade in Italy, now they are made in Taiwan. The factory that used to make Vittoria's is now making a tire called Veloflex. Don't know much about the new Vittoria's, but I would seriously doubt the quality is the same.|
|Your vittoria's are not the same||collinsc|
Mar 14, 2002 8:49 PM
|thats beyond the point (and im more than happy with my open corsas thanks) I wanted to know what Lance is riding, i dont care to compare brands (and by 'compare' i mean 'bitch about')|
Mar 15, 2002 7:15 AM
|they're made in thailand, not taiwan, and the quality is about on par with the veloflex tires that are made in italy now. i got more miles out of the vittorias and the tread de-lammed on both makes after about 2500 miles.|
|i think usps races on hutchinson sewups nm||Spirito di Finocchio|
Mar 14, 2002 8:55 PM
Mar 15, 2002 4:16 AM
|From what I've read, Veloflex makes racing tires for all sorts of companies, actually putting other brand names on them! So, your Hutchison is probably actually a custom-made veloflex.|
|re: Tire choice of the Pros||pmf1|
Mar 15, 2002 6:00 AM
|Postal uses Hutchinson. |
Lance was the one who broke the "Shimano Curse" too --- before 1999, no bike equipped with Shimano components had ever won the Tour de France.
|I understand some Div II teams will be riding clinchers.||Sintesi|
Mar 15, 2002 6:38 AM
|Does anyone know about this? I seem to remember it was on a Lemond equipped team (Saturn?). Are clinchers creeping into the pro ranks finally?|
|Where have you been?||TJeanloz|
Mar 15, 2002 7:08 AM
|Clinchers, namely the Michelin Axial Pro, have been a fixture in the peleton since they came out. Several D1 teams are riding clinchers- the mechanics love them, riders are becoming indifferent. Of the USPS crew last year, about half rode clinchers in the TdF.|
Mar 15, 2002 7:19 AM
|I had no idea. I just assumed the pros all used sew-ups. Seems like a was reading in cyclingnews a little while back about how some Div II teams have been shifting over to clinchers. The way it was reported (the fact it was reported actually) made it sound as if it was some kind if news. You are a font of knowledge TJ.|
|Where have you been?||pmf1|
Mar 15, 2002 7:20 AM
|Wasn't Paris-Riboux (or however its spelled) won on Michelin Axial Pro clinchers last year?|
|Where have you been?||TJeanloz|
Mar 15, 2002 7:23 AM
|I initially wanted to say that it was, but I couldn't be sure, so I didn't say it. I am sure that Paris-Roubaix has been ridden on an Axial Pro, but it will take some looking to find out if it was won on them.|
Mar 15, 2002 7:48 AM
|Kinda hard to say since everyone seems to have gotten a flat at one time or another in that race.
Loaner wheels from fans? Mavic car wheels? Team wheels?
Mar 15, 2002 7:54 AM
|I swear I saw one proclaiming that the Axial Pro was the first clincher ever to win P-R.|
|From their website:||TJeanloz|
Mar 15, 2002 8:27 AM
The 2000 cycling season confirmed the efficiency of Michelin's Axial Pro tyres mounted with Latex air chambers, notably the Pro Winter and Pro Light versions. Used for the first time in the Midi Libre in 1999, the tyres were adopted by eleven teams this year.
Result: more than 100 victories, including five world championship titles.
These promising results came on top of a string of victories. In chronological order, Axial Pro tyres took first place in the Paris-Nice, the Flèche wallonne, the Critérium International, the Trophée des Grimpeurs, the Quatre jours de Dunkerque, the Tour of Italy, the Midi Libre, the Tours of Japan, Germany, Austria and Luxembourg, the Dauphiné Libéré and the Tour de France.
|Maybe at the end||boneman|
Mar 15, 2002 9:23 AM
|due to wheel changes but Domo was riding Conti tubs during the season, the GP225's.|
Mar 15, 2002 8:12 AM
|someone told me last night that they ride on tubeless road tires...ive never heard of them before....you glue them to the rim and they go up to 150..he said they werent tubulars but i still havent seen them, sounds like a good idea, mountain bikes use them...anyone tried the puncture-free tire yet, its solid rubber but still very light and supposedly performs well and is about as hard as a 120psi tire...they also come with a lifetime warranty, sounds great for commuting..i havent tried them yet and forget the web site but i know they are out there|
|someone lied to you! (nm)||merckx56|
Mar 15, 2002 8:19 AM
Mar 15, 2002 8:23 AM
|As I understand Tufo tires, they are not technically a tubular, but rather a tubeless system. They don't have a tube sewn into them like a traditional tubular tire but most people would still consider it a tubular tire b/c of the gluing issues.
A tubeless road clincher (as they have in MTB) would not presently offer any advantages, and will not until they can take some weight out of the rim and tire.
Mar 15, 2002 2:16 PM
|The Tufo Tubular Clincher (oxymoron?) does not require glue and fits on a conventional clincher rim through the use of a channel molded to both sides of the tire that grips the rim. They're racing tire weighs 335gm according to their web site which is roughly 25gm more than an Axial Pro with a standard butyl tube. Oddly enough they don't seem to offer an off road tubular clincher (they do make 26" sizes but for cyclocross). The major advantage of tubeless tires for MTB is traction due to lower allowable pressures. Using a conventional tire/tube with pressures around 30psi can cause pinch flats. The Tufo system uses regular rims but, unlike today's Mavic tubless system, if you did get a flat you couldn't throw in a tube and still ride.|
|tubeless tires||Spoke Wrench|
Mar 15, 2002 8:34 AM
|Installing a tubeless mountain bike tire can be a real "vocabulary expanding experience." I can't inagine struggling with one alongside a trail. The whole system weighs more too, so I would guess we are at least a couple of years from seeing them for roadbike use.|
|Michelin Pro Race||LC|
Mar 15, 2002 9:19 AM
|According to Michelin last year they were using a new tire that replaces the Axial Pro called the Pro Race. I actually got a pair, but have not tried them in a race yet.|
Mar 16, 2002 9:11 AM
|Michelin mentions in their ads that the Axial Pro was the first clincher tire used for the Paris-Roubaix...|| |