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Best combination of durability and performance...(11 posts)

Best combination of durability and performance...dawg
Mar 13, 2002 7:19 PM
in a tire? I have had pretty good success with Axial Pro's. Is there a better tire out there for training?
conti ultra 2000s nmgtx
Mar 13, 2002 7:36 PM
second the conti 2000s if price is a factor but...ColnagoFE
Mar 14, 2002 8:54 AM
though i'd go for the original Grand Prixs (not the GP 3000s they don't seem to wear well) myself if you're willing to spend a little extra. They stick like glue and wear pretty well, but if you're on a budget the 2000s are great and wear like iron but are not quite as sticky or light.
re: Best combination of durability and performance...Elefantino
Mar 13, 2002 9:00 PM
The Contis I ran had an unfortunatly tendency to get sidewall cuts. Before my accident(s), I was running Hutchinson Carbon Comps, to much success, at least for the first few hundred miles. LBS cut me a deal one some that they'd just gotten in and were far superior in road feel to Performance Kevlar Pros. I have since purchased the Carbon Comp Air lights (seen below from eBay) for the Trek OCLV (which I'm rebuilding with the Dura-Ace and Ultegra mix of components from the Specialized) and will proabably put the Carbon Comps on the M-4.

Actually, the best combination of durability and performance is called "luck" and you can take it from one who doesn't have much.

Michelin Hi Lite PrestigeDINOSAUR
Mar 14, 2002 6:34 AM
For the money these are great tires. I think they are being closed out, lot of good sales out there. I was using Performance Forte Pro Kevlars and then put these on and I'll never use the Fortes again. I like the smooth tire tread and sticky sidewalls. A couple hundred miles on them with no sign of wear and no nicks or cuts.
second the Hi Litesbianchi
Mar 14, 2002 7:41 AM
Performance generally has the Michi Hi Lite Prestige tires on sale for $19-22. I have found that they wear better than Axial Pros with little difference in handling. The only problem is that they're only available in black with red sidewalls, if that's an issue. If you can find Axial Pros for on sale for $20-25, which you occasionally can, then I would jump at that. Last time I looked, had the green Axial Pros on sale for $23, which is a pretty good price. Performance also has Ritchey road tires on sale right now for $24 but I've never tried them.

I've had very good wear with Axial Pros, except for my most recent tire, which had a blow-out that was no fault of the tire. Hit a rock that cut through the sidewall on a green Axial Pro with only 400 miles on the front. I've never had a sidewall cut with APs before then. I generally buy the best tires I can find (not ultralite racing versions) when they are on sale, and then I stock up. Bought about 5 Axial Pros on sale for about $22 each over the winter, and that should hold me for a while.
Vittoria Rubino Prosmuncher
Mar 14, 2002 7:48 AM
Had good results with those - they are the dual compound ones - great value for the money.

Also second the Hutchs - had lots of them over the years and they seem to stand up well to some pretty bad roads around where I live.

Just got a set of Vittorias (sports) for under $5 each from for my commuter - at that price you can afford to take a gamble.
2nd the Vittoria Rubino Prosk mand
Mar 14, 2002 7:56 AM
second set now, great tire.
re: Best combination of durability and performance...Dave Hickey
Mar 14, 2002 8:41 AM
I get about 3000 miles on my Axial Pros. I just bought new black ones at SuperGo for $30 each.
Michelin Axial Carbonmickey-mac
Mar 14, 2002 9:27 AM
They're about $30 each, they last forever, and they're almost immune to punctures. They don't roll quite as well as Axial Pros, but they're pretty close.
Hutchinson Reflex Golds are nicejw25
Mar 14, 2002 10:16 AM
I'm really growing to like Hutchinson tires, both off-road an on.
I've put about 500 miles on a set of 23mm Reflex Golds, on rough PA roads, over glass (at least 3 patches I couldn't avoid), and the rear looks new.
I like the gold silica compound, although how much the skinny stripes help is hard to say. The ride is sticky and smooth at 110 psi, and I've had no trouble keeping up with others on "nicer" tires. I'll probably do some racing with them, too, later in the season - the packaging does say "racing/training".
I got mine for about $40 shipped on Ebay, and there's a more training-specific Hutchy there, the Excel, which is heavier, but should last longer, and is a bit less money.
I've also used the Michelin Hi-Lite Prestige others mentioned, and it's basically an Axial Pro with different colors - and Performance's 3-for deal is usually good.
Nashbar has Panaracer Stradius wire beads for a good price, and I've put some time on the Pro version. They inflate higher, if you're bigger, and do grip very well.
And, I've just gotten some Rubino's, but haven't put any time on them yet, so can't speak for their ride. I've seen reviews here that compare them to Axial Pro's, though, and they have a nice thick tread layer, so should last a long time.
Yes, I am a tire junkie, and I'm not ashamed.