|Where do you keep your bikes?||mr_spin|
Oct 30, 2001 12:55 PM
|I'm thinking about buying a house that has a basement, which is rare in California. I don't have a lot of basement experience, but as a devoted fan of This Old House, I notice that they inevitably end up in the basement fixing something on each house they do.
I figure I'll store my most precious possessions, my bikes (two out four, anyway) down there. It has to be safer and better than storing them in the detached garage.
Anyone know any pitfalls about storing bikes in a basement? It's completely finished with concrete, and chances of flooding are extremely remote.
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||raboboy|
Oct 30, 2001 1:24 PM
|as long as there is no chance of flooding, then the basement is fine.|
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||brider|
Oct 30, 2001 1:29 PM
|When I had a basement in my house, I stored them there. The best part was that there was an outside ramp that allowed me to just ride to the basement door. Unfortunately, it did flood almost every winter, and I'd go down there at least 3 times a day to squeegee (sp?) the water into the sump pump (at times it just didn't keep up). I kept a dehumidifier there, which is a good idea for any concrete basement, regardless of whether it floods.|
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||PaulCL|
Oct 30, 2001 1:30 PM
|No matter what the chances of flooding, its' got to be safer than in the garage. I have stored mine in the basement for years. If your basement floods, your tires get wet - big deal.|
|re: The basement||dzrider|
Oct 30, 2001 1:33 PM
|I hang most of ours from hooks screwed into the beams in the basement. They take less space that way. The tandem is too tall.|
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||Mel Erickson|
Oct 30, 2001 1:44 PM
|In my neck of the woods (Wisconsin) it's almost unheard of to build a house without a basement. Where would you put the furnace? This is not so much a caution about basements but about storage in general. Will you be storing these bikes for months or just between frequent rides? If you plan on storing them for months take care to store them away from ozone generating sources (i.e. electrical motors) and UV radiation. Either one by itself, and especially in combination, can reek havoc on rubber or rubber like materials (tires, seals, grips, etc.). Now, in California ozone may be prevalent wherever you go and a basement would be a likely place to keep them away from UV so a basement in California sounds ok. Just don't store them in your tanning bed.|
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||flybyvine|
Oct 30, 2001 8:19 PM
|You mention that you should keep them away from electric motors. I keep both bikes hanging in a large store room above a dehumidifier (Singapore humnidity is a killer). Is there a danger in this ? I haven't noticed any rubber problems over the last 10 months.
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||Mel Erickson|
Oct 30, 2001 9:13 PM
|Motor is probably small and not putting out that much ozone. I assume you use them regularly so they're in and out. Don't know about bike tires but auto tire manufacturers put a compound in their tires that is pushed to the surface by flexing of the tire and protects the tire. It's a waxy type of substance. Not something you can really see. I wouldn't be too concerned. If you notice premature checking you might consider either moving the bikes or the dehumidifier. I'm talking larger motors like on furnaces, washing machines, dryers, saws, etc.|
|In bed with me (nm)||LC|
Oct 30, 2001 1:46 PM
|Minoura bike stand, and flooding is fine||ET|
Oct 30, 2001 1:51 PM
|I have one, and have never been happier with a purchase. Great and easy place to store them; they won't fall down. Doesn't take up much room either. I have it in my basement den. It's now on sale for $79.95 at Nashbar. See page 70 of the current catalog or click here:
Even I figured out the assembly instructions (which are humorously in sort of Japanese English), so you can too. What makes it great is it's freestanding, so no drilling or marking up your ceiling or wall; heck, it doesn't even need a wall. You can even move the stand when both bikes are on it. Each stand holds two bikes, stacked one on top of the other--just make sure you have at least 7 feet of ceiling clearance. Despite the warning not to keep a bike only on the upper of the two holding racks (which, BTW, are adjustable), it's sturdy enough to do so. And given both bikes are off the ground, no big deal if it floods (within limits).
|Bikes and basements||Elefantino|
Oct 30, 2001 2:02 PM
|I had a house with a basement when I lived in the mountains. I hung the bikes from the ceiling; others I know used pole racks. Something about the ground and bikes that didn't sound right but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.|
Oct 30, 2001 3:04 PM
|I read recently that if you had a steel bike, it would be best to store it in an environment as close to the temperature outside as possible so that when you used it outside in the cooler months, the reduction in air temperature would not cause condensation to form inside the tubes promoting rust. I should mention that I have no special expertise in metals. I am just passing on someone's else's comment for what it is worth, but if it is true, then the garage might be a better choice for a steel bike.|
|THE BASEMENT??!! ARE YOU NUTS??!!||cyclinseth|
Oct 30, 2001 3:10 PM
|Didn't you see the Blair Witch Project? Didn't you see what happened to those poor souls in the basement, at the end of the film footage? How do you know that the tourmented spirits of bodies buried alive under the concrete foundation aren't down there right now? Not to mention the spiders, rats and the ocassional alligator that crawl up through the plumbing. One clear sign will be the absence of mice. And for God's sake make sure this house wasn't built on a sacred Indian burial ground. |
By the way, the ATTIC should be just fine. And if my coffin still happens to be stored up there, could you just ship it off to the Carpathian Mountains in Transelvainia. Thanks.
|OK, what about a wine cellar?||mr_spin|
Oct 30, 2001 3:47 PM
|Some of the more upscale houses call their basements "potential wine cellars." I guess that's fine, but under the right circumstances, it's also a potential swimming pool. They never mention that.
I'm pretty sure the house was built on an old Indian burial ground, but I don't think I'll have any problems. And a few years ago they relocated an old cemetary. It would be a hoot if they only did the headstones.
What do you have in there--a 300 watt bulb?
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||xxl|
Oct 30, 2001 3:41 PM
|Q: Is your basement air dry? If the basement air is damp (which is common in older homes especially, but not unheard of even in new construction), this can take its toll on steel. Even if the basement doesn't flood, or even smell dank, quite a bit of ambient moisture can seep up from the ground through the walls and floor. If it's a problem, you'd notice it after a couple of months. Your tools, metal caps, etc. will probably show rust before your bike, though, so you'll have some warning, and can take preventive measures. The dehumidifier was a good idea, and you can also paint or otherwise seal the walls and floor of your basement to act as a vapor barrier. A completely finished basement such as you describe probably had a plastic vapor barrier installed when it was finished out, so you should be cool down below.
One other thing: the person who mentioned ozone deterioration was correct. Ozone is hell on tires, some cable housings, and other bike "soft tissue." And the furnace motor, the washer and dryer motor, and the odd freezer or refrigerator do crank it out. So, I wouldn't store your ride right next to these. A few feet away should suffice.
|In the Dawg House||grzy|
Oct 30, 2001 4:25 PM
|I have the same setup as you describe - a house in Cali with a basement and a detached garage. The problem with basments is even if they don't leak you get mold and mildew from the condensation. Even worse if you have ANY exposed dirt as this releases water vapor. Add to that a few hungry critters looking for nes building material and the tendancy to mark their turf and you're asking for trouble. This will take a toll on a nice bike or any thing nice for that matter. Our garage is detached and the bikes hang from a series of hooks attached to the wall (see the storage thread) with a big cable and a Kryptonite lock through them. We live off the beaten path, but I'm not about to take any chances with a bunch of bikes that exceed the value of a car. Ultimately if someone wants to clean us out they could, but going for the tools and other stuff is going to be more attractive than a pile of locked bikes. You could stick a small (Evo 2000?) Krypto lock on each bike (frame and rear wheel) whihc means that even if they cut the cable they have to deal with getting a lock off of each frame/wheel.|
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||DaveG|
Oct 30, 2001 5:10 PM
|I normally keep me bikes on a rack in the garage. However, in the winter I move my "good" bike to the basement until spring. In general its a bad idea to move your bike from a warm area to a cold area (warm, moist air inside frame condenses upon contact with cold air) because of the potential for condensation to form. This a more of a concern with steel bikes, but water inside the frame is never a good thing|
|In the bike closet. Where else?||Bruno S|
Oct 30, 2001 8:48 PM
|I have a closet in my apartment where I store my bike and all the cycling clothes.|
|under my ass||ouch|
Oct 31, 2001 12:22 AM
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||Mike P.|
Oct 31, 2001 4:22 AM
|I have one bike that stays with me in the house. The other two hang out down in the garage on rubber coated hooks.
|re: Where do you keep your bikes?||John-d|
Oct 31, 2001 6:01 AM
|My two live in reasonable harmony with the car, in the garage. Basically, if the car is careful where it puts it's doors, the bikes won't scratch it with their pedals.|
|Oh No! - Dedicated Bike Room!||Crankist|
Oct 31, 2001 8:48 AM
|'Tis true. Son moved out, father takes over bedroom. Man stuff such as burlap curtains, tall toolboxes, and bike stands are in place. Four bikes and and dirty floors too! Yep, it's good to be alive! |
Have Fun, Mike
|Brand new house?||nee Spoke Wrench|
Oct 31, 2001 9:53 AM
|I had a customer who stored his brand new bike in the basement of a brand spanking new house. It appears the concrete takes a while to cure and the basement humidity was pretty high during the cureing process. Any part of that bike that could rust did rust in about 3 months.
Our condo has a tuck under garage. The bicycles (9 currently) live in their own room off of the garage. Most of them hang from coated hooks that are screwed into a 2X4 that is attached to the floor trusses with long bugle headed screws. I've also got a pretty complete bike shop down there with a work bench, good lighting and a Park shop quality work stand.