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Pardon my unabashed ignorance- 3 Questions:(8 posts)

Pardon my unabashed ignorance- 3 Questions:filtersweep
Oct 27, 2001 11:23 AM
a few questions I've been afraid to ask:

Q1: Why do so many tri riders use Y-Foils, Softrides, etc...? Why are they not allowed in road races (besides "it is against the rules)? What are the advantages and disadvantages over the traditional road frame?

Q2: (Dreaming of Summer here)- Any thought on guys going shirtless while wearing bib shorts when it is 90 outside?

Q3: How do you fix a tubular flat "on the road" ?

speaking of flats... how do "they" handle flats on the TDF etc... (maybe that constitutes a fourth question)?
re: Pardon my unabashed ignorance- 3 Questions:Spikedawg007
Oct 27, 2001 2:48 PM
Q1 - they supposedly beat up the riders less than standard frames, so the competitors are fresher for the other legs of the event.

Q2 - sure, if you find barnyard tan lines sexy

Q3 - take a spare tire with you

Q4 - they have a mobile service station tagging along with them
Some answersBirddog
Oct 27, 2001 4:29 PM
1A) Because they are faster in TT mode and because you can transition to the run with more speed. When you ride a Softride, you don't have that feeling of "running on somebody else's legs" when you make the transition. For more info scroll down to Dog's question.
1B)They are legal in all USCF sanctioned events. They are not legal in UCI events. The same is true in UK and some other countries that are more forward looking than the politicians in the UCI.

In case you ever wondered, Triheads are much quicker to adopt and sometimes reject newer technologies if they feel that it makes them faster. Jurgen Zach dumped his sponsor and their bike a few years back just prior to the Hawaii Ironman to ride a Softride. I think that was the same year he set the course record for the bike. ( I'm a little fuzzy on this). The point is, he made the switch because he was faster on that heavy old Softride than he was on his conventional bike. "Trigeeks" also adopted aero bars far faster than "Roadies"
How pros change flats in racesKerry Irons
Oct 28, 2001 7:16 AM
They get a replacement wheel from either the team car that is following the peloton, or from a neutral service car or motorcycle doing likewise. Changing a wheel takes just seconds - the only time delay is in waiting for the wheel. In some races (Paris-Roubaix a prime example) this can be a problem because of narrow roads and a strung-out race caravan. Sometimes, a team member (domestique) will give up their wheel to a team leader, and then the wheel-less rider waits for the support car.
changing tubulars on the road;Rusty McNasty
Oct 29, 2001 6:20 AM
1) remove wheel.
2) start opposite of the valve, with thumbs, push one side, then other, until tire unseats.
3) Grab tightly, and rip tire off of rim.
4) Put spare tire onto rim, center, inflate, fold up flat (or toss it, if it's a goner), and go.
changing tubulars on the road;brider
Oct 29, 2001 9:45 AM
I've never ridden tubies on the road (I did on the track for one season), so I've never done this, only read about it, but here are a couple additions to the above --
(1) leave a small area unglued opposite the valve stem to aid in starting the tire peeling off the rim.
(2) drag the brakes a little to heat up the glue, making it a little softer.
no need to leave any of the rim ungluedRusty McNasty
Oct 29, 2001 10:17 AM
unless, of course, you WANT to crash!
Really, if you are too weak to get a glued tire off a rim, you outta get rid of the road bike, and get one of those 'adult tricyles' with the big metal basket and a little squeeze horn!!
not so quickDog
Oct 29, 2001 2:13 PM
I did a fine job of gluing my tubulars on, so fine that when I flatted in a race, it took me a full 10 minutes to peel the tire off, putting blisters on my thumbs in the process. The darn thing just would not come off. Since I've probably replaced tubulars around 100 or so times in my life, I'd like to think my I'm a little above the adult tricycle level.

Nonetheless, I also would not encourage anyone to leave any part of the rim unglued. Just would not risk it.

Doug