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Virenque , king of the trash talkers, and the TDF(11 posts)

Virenque , king of the trash talkers, and the TDFLargo
Oct 25, 2001 2:04 PM
Man that guy always has something to say.
In todays cyclingnews he was going on about how it isn't a tough enough course for "the climbers" and how he wants to win the climbers jersey again.
I don't know why he considers himself to be such a hot climber, since LA kicks his sorry ass all over the place whenever it counts.
Ullrich does the same.
Virenque is the only one who seems to be interested in scrapping for the points on the intermediate summits.
I hope there are no RV fans out there to nail me.
No problem here, the guy's slimeMcAndrus
Oct 25, 2001 5:38 PM
Not that I have an opinion here. I never liked him in the old days either. How many hours of tape do I have of Virenque just sitting on Indurain's wheel?

Unfortunately, he also seems to be a pretty damn good rider. Paris Tours was a remarkable achievement for him.

It's like regarding Barry Bonds or Lawrence Taylor. I don't have to like the guy but I guess I do have to respect him.
You won't be nailed..Patricia
Oct 25, 2001 8:24 PM
..and I'm not a RV fan !
But all the same I'm French and Richard is not that dumb when on his bike. Besides he's one of our best champions over here..Sure he is not much compared to your LA but he's one of the best climbers in the world all the same..among the top 20 at any rate !
Besides he got the better of your US champion last year in the TDF...he won the Morzine stage..and let me tell you that it was a real feat !
And don't forget that RV has come back after going through 3 years' trouble with the police and justice..and has been suspended (!) for almost half a year..
Here's a good one ...pmf1
Oct 26, 2001 4:20 AM
I did a cycling tour with Andy Hampsten's group last year. Andy is the nicest guy and doesn't have a bad word to say about anyone. So, we're all asking him to tell us stories and what certian pros are like. I ask about Bugno and he has this funny story about how psychotic he is and always thought no one liked him. Later I asked about Virenque. Andy thought about it for a minute and said "well, Richard is not a very nice guy".

Remember in the 1998 Tour when the guys at the USPS referred to him as the Dickster?
re: Virenque , king of the trash talkers, and the TDFcippo
Oct 26, 2001 5:13 AM
There's only three words that I have for "tricky dick"..........LIAR....LIAR......LIAR.........
winning Paris-Tours and talking bigDAS
Oct 26, 2001 8:57 AM
Did you see him crush Paris-Tours? Great performance. He dropped fellow weasel rider Jacky Durand and stayed away. Amazing.

I wonder what RV was yelling when he crossed the finish line? He kissed his finger and yelled in defiance. Perhaps he was yelling "I'm the King of the World!" Or, perhaps he was yelling "I'm so doped up right now I can't even see straight!" I guess we'll never know.

Still, I love to watch him compete. I hope he shows up ready for an arse whooping by the USPS next year at the TDF.
My fav Dickster moment.Largo
Oct 26, 2001 9:15 AM
2000 TDF, Richard and a rider whos name escapes me, are in a breakaway on a descent, the other rider crashes, and RV takes the stage.
His quote was "i won with style and panache"
OK.
Anybody else would have mentioned the obvious that if not for the other rider crashing, things could have been a whole lot different, but not the Dickster.
What was his statement after Paris Tours, "this was a tale of courage" or something like that?
the other rider was Herasmr_spin
Oct 26, 2001 11:38 AM
Then with Kelme, now with US Postal. He went down hard, as I remember, but still got up and got second.
And talk about your unlucky breaksMcAndrus
Oct 26, 2001 4:52 PM
Yes, it was Heras with Virenque and Roberto took a bad line through a corner and went into a barrier. I think he came in third when Ullrich (or someone) passed him before he got a new bike. I'll have to put the tape in tonight and refresh my memory.

I'd forgotten this stage and it is one of my favorite RV moments. It doesn't show on the tour tape but I remember watching the stage on ESPN which had better same-day coverage.

Heras was cramping badly from his efforts and was shaking his legs repeatedly. My guess is that's why Roberto crashed.

I also agree it was a great display of hubris for Virenque to strut about his great victory. But for Heras' miscalculation of a turn the end could have been very different.
True but..Patricia
Oct 26, 2001 10:50 PM
..don't forget it was RV's first victory after the trials he'd been through...So it may account for his strutting..
Anyhow, I must aknowledge the guy often talks rubbish..he's known for that in France and is the laughing stock of many people..
And yet he is the kind of pugnacious riders we miss in France..and in other countries ! See what he has done in Paris-Tours.
actually,...Js Haiku Shop
Oct 26, 2001 11:44 AM
heras was sucking wind and cramping on the way down. if i remember right, RV kept motioning for heras to take a pull, since he was sitting off the back, stretching his leg/foot, out of the pedal. had he not crashed, he might not have been capable of putting in the sprint. who knows?