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Steel, Al, or Ti for a big rider(8 posts)

Steel, Al, or Ti for a big riderWesman
Oct 25, 2001 12:14 PM
I'm 215lbs and 6'10". I've been riding and occasionally racing a custom Cannondale for about 15 years. Needless to say the poor thing has just about had it and will be committed to a museum or a trainer.

What would give a forgiving yet responsive ride considering the long tubes and my leg longs - steel, al, or ti.

Also, I've had back surgery due to doing stupid things on a mtn bike (which also happens to be Al). I've never ridden anything but Al.

I'm considering a Seven Ti frame or Waterford steel.

re: adviceStarliner
Oct 25, 2001 12:48 PM
You should consider carbon fiber if you want comfort and responsiveness. Calfee makes custom sizes, in fact rumor has it that they made Magic Johnson a frameset recently. Give Magic a call and see how he likes it.
re: Steel, Al, or Ti for a big ridernon-sprinter
Oct 25, 2001 1:50 PM
Considering you height and weight, I would go with steel or al. Your height makes stiffness an issue. Long tubes have more flex, than short tubes. Your weight compounds the problem of stiffness, that is a lot of weight on those long tubes. That will make them flex. Carbon fiber would be awesome, if they were custom, but few if any will do that. A custom Waterford Steel would be an good choice.
re: Steel, Al, or Ti for a big riderLargo
Oct 25, 2001 1:52 PM
I'm 6'6" and 225 and have been racing a custom Neuron steel road frame, and love it.
I also race a seven Ti mtb and love it.
Any material, if properly designed, will work in a big frame.
Ti is nice because you can use oversized tubes to get the stiffness over a long length, and still have good weight and strength.
Steel over that length of tube can get pretty flexy.
re: Steel, Al, or Ti for a big riderPjkad
Oct 25, 2001 1:55 PM
I'm small by comparison, only 6'5" and 205lbs, but I am very happy with my Seven Axiom. They built a super comfortable bike for me, with a long head tube (28cm), and a slightly sloping top tube. I also had some neck pain from riding my 66cm Cannondale previously, which is gone now. I'm riding longer, faster and much more comfortably. The difference between Al and Ti has been dramatic for me. I suppose any high end custom builder can get you the right fit/material but I am a satisfied Seven customer.
re: Steel, Al, or Ti for a big riderbrider
Oct 25, 2001 2:01 PM
You've had back surgery and ride a C'dale? Well bust my buttons. I had a C'dale MTB quite a while back, and the ride was anything but forgiving. You're pretty much stuck with a custom built bike, and any frame builder worth their salt will be able to dial in the ride characteristics you want, regardless of material.
re: Steel, Al, or Ti for a big rideryeah right
Oct 25, 2001 4:22 PM
My dad (6'9") bought a Waterford, and loves it. I'm a big guy too, although not quite as tall, and I like my Waterford as well.
re: Steel, Al, or Ti for a big riderObiwan
Oct 25, 2001 9:17 PM
Of the two you are considering, Seven doesn't make a stiff enough Ti frame from what I've seen, so I'd recommend a custom Serotta. The Waterford would be a fine choice but not as stiff as a Serotta Legeng Ti or the new Ottrott It.
Just my 2 cents.