|Rules to LIVE by||Steven|
Aug 22, 2001 3:49 PM
|When I ride I follow these rules: |
1. All cars are driven by idiots and they will kill you.
2. The car that is waiting at the stop to turn WILL NOT SEE YOU.
3. Cars run red lights so never assume you are safe in the green.
4. Cars are bigger than bikes and have the right of way all the time.
5. Never assume that the guy in the car will see you - He WON'T
6. (add your own)
Am I in a bad mood today??
Had another car turn right in front of me again yesterday. I swear she did even look to see if I was there.
|Drivers never use turn signals, so expect them to turn (nm)||UncleMoe|
Aug 22, 2001 3:56 PM
Aug 22, 2001 4:06 PM
|anyone EVER remember learning about cycling laws in driver's ed.? Ever remember any question relation to bike law on a driver's exam? Ever see a cycling public service announcement?
I was *only* cut off twice today by drivers making a right turn right in front of me (the sort where I would have hit them, where they were stopped perpendicular to my line of travel- they were at a stop sign, and I had the right of way and they were turning into my "lane"). I'm convinced the driver's cannot comprehend that bikes can actually travel the speed limit. Since there are so many slow bikes around, they assume we all are, plus we are relatively small objects.
|watch the front right wheel...||rollo tommassi|
Aug 22, 2001 5:50 PM
|You're rules are sadly true; with the rash of posts describing being cut off by right-turners, my tip is to anticipate the blind spot at every intersection (light or not) and eyeball the front right wheel of the vehicle at your 10/11 o'clock. The tire cocking to the side will betray the drivers' intention before the body of the car moves. It has worked for me, gives you that millisecond prescience to know the outcome of the next moment.
my motto is:
"I can be on fire, have flames spouting off the top of my head, and the driver will say: I THOUGHT I SMELLED SOMETHING BURNING BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE ON A BIKE"
My other motto is: Anticipate Ignorance, Expect Stupidity
Please please everyone be defensive and be hyper alert.
|re: Rules to LIVE by||DoctorNurse|
Aug 23, 2001 5:07 AM
|When riding in traffic I ALWAYS ride in one of the middle lanes exactly because drivers are much less likely to turn right (or left) from those lanes, because then they might cut off something as big or bigger than them.
Also as a cyclocommuter I undrestand the frustration with being cut off, but remember that we are much smaller, quiter, and don't bring the "Sixth Sense" to drivers that say- the big, inefficient, earth-destroying SUV does, and we should just expect that we will not be seen, assume that drivers are not looking/concerned/intelligent, and ride to accomodate these Cro-Magnons accordingly. (All of which is suspended when WE drive!!) :-)...
That said, be safe, and remember to smile and wave at the driver who helps you out as often as you write the tag number down of the %$^%#@! who cuts you off.
Aug 23, 2001 5:47 AM
|I like to ride weaving down the center of the street riding no hands while talking on a cell phone and waving one hand in the air to make my point clearer. While drinking my coffee and checking in my handlebar mirror that my comb over is neat.
You mean there are other people on my road?
|"You can be Dead Right!"||Dog|
Aug 23, 2001 6:29 AM
|This is what my father always told me when I was learning to drive. You can have the right of way, take it, and be killed. This is about a million times more true on a bike. Basically, you never have the right of way. At least act that way, short of really confusing people.
|But they see me if they want information||bikedodger|
Aug 23, 2001 6:38 AM
|I don't know why, but I am often asked for directions by drivers. The last time was on a 4 lane divided hignway and the driver was in the left lane and I was on the right shoulder at a stop light. I heard someone yelling and it was the driver of the SUV asking me how to get somewhere. There was a car in the right lane, but the SUV driver wanted the directions from me. Cyclists must look like they know every street and business address in existence.|
|I hate when that happens too...||JL|
Aug 23, 2001 6:58 AM
|I have numerous occasions when this occurs. I've had it happen as I'm going/struggling uphill. Like I'm supposed to stop in mid-hill, come across the street, and look at their map, directions, etc. I just say, "I can't stop" and keep going.
Usually, I will help people but it depends on the situation, like the above example. It's really nuts, but it does seem like it's the only time they notice you. I told a woman to follow me to the street she was looking for the other morning. That I thought was funny, but she caught me as I approached a stop sign, anyway. I said, "It's this way, follow me."
I really need to stop wearing my "Need Directions?" jersey ;)