|PARANOIA = 17lb bike + 20 lb lock||Slipstream|
Mar 5, 2002 11:10 AM
|So, I finally sprung for my dream bike (used C-40, Campy 9 speed) that is in great condition. I saved and saved and still I had to have that final discussion with the wife over whether this-is-too-much-money-to-spend. |
Now I AM paranoid. What do others do to secure their bikes when riding? when transporting by vehicle?
What mistakes have people made where their bikes were ripped off?
|It's an old joke: All bikes weigh 30 pounds||cory|
Mar 5, 2002 11:16 AM
|If you have a 30-pound bike, you don't bother to lock it. If it weighs 25 pounds, you need a five-pound lock. For your 17-pounder, you have to carry a 13-pound lock.
The best answer I've found, and I'll admit it's unsatisfactory, is to have at least two bikes. The one I care about gets ridden only where I can keep an eye on it--it almost never gets locked up and left. For everyday riding, errands, going to lunch and even most vacation trips that aren't centered on cycling, I take the other one. It works fine, and I don't really care what happens to it. As a friend of mine says, "If you worry about them all the time, your toys are playing with YOU."
|Common sense bro||Ahimsa|
Mar 5, 2002 11:24 AM
|Bah, you'll be fine with just common sense and a U bolt. As for vehicles, it's usually covered under your auto insurance unless you are liability only.
If the weight bothers ya, leave locks around town at all the places you frequent. I've got the bloody things all over the place. I carry one with me in my bag along with a small cable if I'm gonna be in a sketchy part of town. Of course I cover up my frame decals with tape, which you probably will not.
Look at it this way, hauling that 20# lock sure will beef up your legs. Imagine the rides when you needn't carry it!
Mar 5, 2002 11:35 AM
|The cart insurance part||Jekyll|
Mar 5, 2002 11:41 AM
|Is mostly not true - most insurers will not cover anything that is not part of the vehicle (as I found out after some idiot smacked my car in the back and with a truck rack and bike attached). Your bike is typically covered by your home owners policy and not by your auto policy.
I would not leave anything worth stealing unless it had an armed gaurd. No lock is thief proof (or even close to it). The idea about two bikes is best. You can get a junker to ride around town for pretty close to the price of a good lock.
|have junker--Q how to prevent theft on long/overnite rides?nm||Slipstream|
Mar 5, 2002 11:44 AM
Mar 5, 2002 12:32 PM
|Car insurance does not cover theft. At least it didn't in my case. However homeowners/renters insurance does. |
My car was broken into at a trail head during a MTB ride. Auto insurance covered the damages to the car. Renters insurance covered the contents.
|Try a Mentos, or...||tempeteKerouak|
Mar 5, 2002 11:50 AM
|1) Proper insurance (bike is pictured but not fully detailed, hem! Might upgrade a bit if stolen; hell, I paid it, it's called insurance!), and the shop receipt is kept safe.
2) Bikes are either locked in my basement, or have my a$$ on it. I use those u-locks and steel pillars that hold the whole house...
3) Dogs; One bernese mountain dog is too tame, One Border Collie is too small. Both together are a wicked proven team.
4) Car transportation: in the trunk. Nobody knows.
5) Accept that if someone wants it, they will have it. Overprotecting only means to more damage. Fallacy to believe you can stop a determined thief.
|I like the pack of dogs idea...||Slipstream|
Mar 5, 2002 11:58 AM
|I agree, if someone wants it, they will take it; but as a deterrent, say: |
1. you are on a century and at a stop: do you bring a lock or just put it in the pen?
2. you are on a solo ride, what is the best deterrent (outside of the pack dogs) :)
|Short stop trick:||tempeteKerouak|
Mar 5, 2002 12:08 PM
|When I ride in a rural area and I need to leave the bike unattended for a very short time (ie, going in to get a drink, glancing out the window...)
I'll sometimes take off the front wheel and carry it inside with me.
Other tricks would involve releasing the quick release, the brake cable... So that no-one would go very far on the bike (evil tricks, I say, because they don't say "don't touch", they just cause problems...)
Solo ride -do you mean touring? I bring two u-locks and two smaller cable locks. Everything is locked-up; seat, helmet, wheels, frame. I guess someone could still manage to get the pedals... If I am camping and was to leave the bike for a longer period, I'd remove them.
|Has anyone had their bike ripped off?||Slipstream|
Mar 5, 2002 12:25 PM
|What would you do differently? (Other than carry a shotgun, have a pack of dogs or C4 explosives.)|
|re: PARANOIA = 17lb bike + 20 lb lock||Lone Gunman|
Mar 5, 2002 3:22 PM
|Here is a few things to do. If I do not have a lock with me:
1) Keep the bike in my sight area by positioning outside a window. I don't let it out of sight without a lock.
2) Tighten the brakes down all the way so the brakes are locked up. No ride offs without figuring out how to loosen the brakes.
3) Shift into the 52x12, hard to ride off if he has figured out the brake thing.
1,2,3 will not prevent a thief from placing the marginally secured bike in the back of a vehicle and driving off while you wave bye bye in pink kit. So tis best to use a lock and chain it to the immovable object. I use a Kryptonite key lock and cable. 3 ways to beat it: cut the cable with big bolt cutters, freeze the lock and smash it or pick the lock. If the thief wants it that bad he will get it.
Lastly, homeowners with FULL REPLACEMENT COVERAGE.
|re: PARANOIA = 17lb bike + 20 lb lock||madcap69|
Mar 6, 2002 11:13 PM
|I live and commute in the highest risk bike theft city in Oregon, Corvallis. I have the renters policy to cover my bikes and I carry the Kryptonite New York Noose. It's better than the New York Chain because it's shorter and lighter due to the big ring at one end which allows you to pass the chain back through it'self.
I always lock up in high visibility areas and always to something solid, no chain link fences. If you carry a U-lock make sure it's too short to get a hydraulic jack into. That's the easiest way to break one open.
If you're doing a long ride and don't want to lug the lock around, try plotting likely stops (coffe shops, deli's, etc.) and call them and ask if you can bring your bike inside and stash it somewhere. Most people are pretty cool about this if you explain that your bike is worth more than your car and you'd be really bent if it got ripped off.
And of course, on group rides you can always play "rock, paper, scissors" to see who watches the bikes first and then rotate by alphabetical order every 10 minutes or so.
I've been looking for a Huffy sticker set for my Ti Hardtail. It won't fool a real bike thief but it keeps the idiots away.