|Veloce or 105||JW|
Feb 27, 2002 5:57 PM
|I am sure the Campy/Shimano debate has been beat into the ground, but if any one has some views or experiences regarding advantages/disadvantages of the Veloce and 105 gruppo your help would be appreciated. I am trying to decide between 2 bikes one is an aluminum Felt w/ full 105 and the other is a steel Univega with full Veloce both are comfy, however the Univega is a couple hundred cheaper. I am just trying to get an idea of the Ease of shifting/ Dependability/ service and so on of each gruppo. Thanks in advance for any help.|
|re: Veloce or 105||hayden|
Feb 27, 2002 6:07 PM
|the veloce is a good group. Neither is top end and unless you are riding just recreationally, neither will last. Veloce will probably be a bit more dependable. Then you also have to look at the upgradabiltiy. Tougher to get campy wheels. Overall, I'd pick the Univega, but the bike isn't for me. Hopefully you can ride them both a bit and decide which setup you like best.|
|Go with the bike, not the group||McAndrus|
Feb 28, 2002 5:11 AM
|I ride Campy so I'm biased towards that but in this case I'd say the bike choice is more important than the group. Both groups will do you fine if you're not racing.|
|"I'm sure the Campy/Shmano debate has been beat into the ground"||Ahimsa|
Feb 27, 2002 6:12 PM
|What? You mean around here? Naw, not really. Why would you say that? Hmmm....Campy vs. Shimano never occured to me. Now that you mention it.... ; )
I use some 105 stuff, and one of my riding companions is a Campy nut. For my dough they are both fine groups. Which really leaves it to personal preference and/or the total bike package.
Regarding the bike choice, I couldn't give you a real answer without knowing what wheels are on the two bikes, and you didn't ask for that anyway, sooooo....
A. (Steps back to avoid being singed by all the incoming Campy vs. Shimano goon flames)
|Shimano rules||I Love Shimano|
Feb 27, 2002 11:21 PM
|105 if Shimano's most "bang for the buck" group. It has lasted me a long time, and the only part I have had to change so far was the rear brake cable (too much sweat).
Dump the Campy schmampy, and live a better life with 105.
|Those Veloce-equipped steel Univegas||scottfree|
Feb 28, 2002 6:38 AM
|are real nice bikes, FWIW.|
|Here is some more information to help your decision...||Cima Coppi|
Feb 28, 2002 7:07 AM
|Campy Only tested the 2001 Veloce triple group, and they wrote a very informative article about the results. Check this out:
The steel frame will not give quite the harsh ride as the Alu frame, so over long rides you may find the Univega to be more comfortable.
On the flip side, I have a riding buddy who has a 105 equipped bike. I tune it for him, and it is easy service, and shifts very smoothly. IMO, you can't go wrong with either choice. The one factor that my make you choose one over the other is the design of the brake/shift levers. Personally I prefer the design of Ergo levers over STI, but this is something you should really focus on when test riding the two bikes.