Feb 26, 2002 7:42 PM
|is the 2000 lemond zurich basically the same frame as the 2001 and 2002 frame made of 853 steel?
|Nevermind, answered my own question NM||Sub|
Feb 26, 2002 8:50 PM
|But perhaps not completely||Crankist|
Feb 27, 2002 6:09 AM
|The 2000 model had horiz.drops which I've read created rear axle slippage problems for some. This was |
changed in 2001.
|woah woah woah...||Bigburlymtnman|
Feb 27, 2002 12:52 PM
|hang on, i'm about to buy a 2000 zurich, could you describe this rear axle slippage problems for me in a little more depth?
thanks in advance
|woah woah woah...||dsc|
Feb 27, 2002 1:25 PM
|I've got a '99 Zurich; they supposedly had the same problem. Mainly caused by people using ultra-light rear skewers and/or not closing them properly.
Granted, I don't crank uphills the way some might, but I bought this bike from a guy who did - never a problem.
Bottom line, use a good skewer w/ a serrated nut (Dura Ace, Salsa, etc.)and close it properly (should leave a nice indentation in the palm of your hand.)
|woah woah woah...||Crankist|
Feb 27, 2002 1:45 PM
|Surely not a problem for most, but for somebody like, say, a big burly mountain man who |
bends cranks, then the axel slipping forward from big torque could be a problem. Suggest
a peek at the 2000 Zurich reviews if they're still there.
|re: Lemond Zurich||Bobo|
Feb 27, 2002 6:39 AM
|Apart from the dropouts they introduced the following changes:
1 1/8" head tube
New tubeset - 853 ProTeam. It's a thinner walled version of 853. The tube diameter is a little thicker and the frames a bit stiffer for the post 2000 models.
In 2001 they moved the cable stops to the headtube but moved them back to the downtube for 2002 because there were some cases in which the headtube mounted ones broke off.
Geometry-wise though, the bikes are the same.
|what did they used for '00 chainstays?||cyclopathic|
Feb 27, 2002 9:26 AM
|original 853 (pre-Pro) tubing didn't have chainstays only main.
Builders had to use alternative sources like Ox or columbus.
LeMond uses Reynolds throughout so chainstays are probably 520/525 or 531
|what about Lemond Aluminum?||ridewt|
Feb 27, 2002 12:25 PM
|Does anyone know if LeMond stopped making the Alum frame? If so, why?|
|what about Lemond Aluminum?||lemond2001|
Feb 27, 2002 3:44 PM
|Lemond didn't stop making aluminum it was trek. The process of making the frame was to expensive and they didn't want to warranty aluminum frame for life. They were having problems with the frames cracking around the bottom bracket.
They decide to go to Ti because they could make more money from the customer on the bottom line. Not many people would pay $3000.00 for a aluminum frame. but for Ti yes, so they make more money on the bike.
As for the Zurich pre 2001 came in 853 main and 725 rear stays. On the lower models they used 525 for the stays.(Note the 725 stays are stronger than the 525) Some people have had problems with the design of the pre 2001 drop outs but it was only with the Rolfs skewers for some reason change to mavic and you will have know problems. As for the changes for 2001 they went to shaping the tube set at the bottom bracket and the headset to stiffen the bike. The headset went to a 1'1/8" and the read dropouts wear changed. The frame is made out of 853 main and 525 stays.
|what about Lemond Aluminum?||Sub|
Feb 27, 2002 4:58 PM
|well, i bought the 2000 model for 395, somehow it is still brand new, figured it was a good deal. I think it may be a 99 model though, it is white and with red panels? any help would be appriciated.
|what about Lemond Aluminum?||dsc|
Feb 27, 2002 5:42 PM
|Are you asking about an aluminum frame or the Zurich?
My '99 Zurich is white w/ red panels, so if that's the model you've got, it's definitely a '99.