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so what's the scoop on darbepoetin?(8 posts)

so what's the scoop on darbepoetin?gtx
Feb 25, 2002 8:50 PM
If XC skiers are using it, you know pro cyclists are using it. Is it on the list of banned substances yet? Have they started testing for it?

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/winter02/xcountry/news?id=1340028
re: so what's the scoop on darbepoetin?Elefantino
Feb 25, 2002 9:46 PM
I don't know about XC skiers, but cyclists are tested for their hemoglobin level. Presumably, if this drug boosts red blood cells, it would tip the scales just as EPO does.

Good question, though.

Mike
re: so what's the scoop on darbepoetin?SnowBlind
Feb 25, 2002 10:30 PM
Heard on the news today that the company who made it developed a direct test for the drug at the same time. As the big E noted, they test for hemocrit with EPO. So long as you don't go over the "normal" limit, you can get away with it. This time, however, it did not work that way.
They kept it secret until after the Olympics so they could sting a few athletes.
Makes one wonder what would have happened if they sprung this during the Giro/Vuelta/Tour. All hell would have broke loose.

Least people not realize, there is a legit use for these drugs. A riding partner of mine has a 3 (three!) year old with prostrate cancer and they will start giving him EPO as the Chemo and Radations start to kill to many marrow cells.
The Shite is called Nesp for shortjim hubbard
Feb 25, 2002 11:44 PM
It is similar to epo but is not produced in the body, therefore theoretically easier to test for. However in practice the testing is slow and expensive. It works in the same way as other blood boosters such as HemAssist, Oxyglobin and RSR 13 which have also been rumoured to be in use within the peloton for at least the past two years. The interesting thing is that, Mühlegg's(winner, multiple golds) doctor is none other than Nicolas Terrados (ONCE), who was charged and fined in relation to the Festina affair.
TdF's Heads UpJon Billheimer
Feb 26, 2002 6:46 AM
Reportedly, Jean-Claude Killy, who is heavily involved in TdF management and with the UCI, reported suspected use of darbepoetin by cyclists and skiers in October to the IOC so that they could be ready for Salt Lake City.
Aranesp is the brand name in the USbn
Feb 26, 2002 9:49 AM
you can download the entire PI at the mfger's site
re: so what's the scoop on darbepoetin?merckx56
Feb 26, 2002 7:30 AM
it is a synthetic form of epo. it is said to be around 10x stronger than epo. the benefit for those who actually need it for medical reasons is a smaller dose, less often. since it is synthetic, and not naturally produced by the human body, it leaves traces in the blood stream. the xc skier, johan muhlberg, failed his tests before the 50k event and traces were found in his blood. the test was developed about 90 days prior to the start of the olympics.
i'm quite sure that it will be on the banned substances list by the start of the tour.
remember when pros just too out a liter of blood, only to transfuse it back in to get more blood volume? ah, the good old days...
re: so what's the scoop on darbepoetin?SnowBlind
Feb 26, 2002 9:19 AM
Yeah, but it made your ankles fat...
Might detract from your cool leopard print kit.