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My sprint still works, or . . .(16 posts)
|My sprint still works, or . . .||mickey-mac|
Feb 20, 2002 8:54 PM
|why I hate Pit Bulls more every day. I had another run in with an angry Pit last weekend. I hit the top of a little rise when I saw the little brown bastard on the other side of a two-lane road about 100-150 feet ahead of me. He wasn't wearing a collar and nobody who looked like an owner was anywhere near him. I came to a stop to assess the situation. He looked at me for about 10 seconds and then charged me at full speed. I hopped off my bike and held it in front of me by the seat tube and head tube, sort of pushing it at him as he got near. He slowed and turned, returning to the other side of the road. He was still watching me as I slowly remounted and started to roll down a little descent. As soon as I started pedaling, he bolted after me and got to within about 18 inches of my left heel before I finally pulled away from him and he gave up.
This is the second time I've been charged by a Pit Bull in the past six months or so. In 19 years of road riding, I've been hit by cars, hit by other bikes, slid out and crashed after hitting water from a broken water main, and had too many close calls to count. None of them has ever made me think seriously about quitting. These two canine run-ins, however, have made me wonder whether it's worth the risk, especially because I do almost all of my riding solo. I've been lucky so far, having a descent to work with in outrunning the Pits. How long will this luck hold out? I can't think of anything other than a gun that would have guaranteed me safe passage either time. Given a choice between an encounter with an angry motorist and an angry Pit Bull, I'll take the driver any day.
|re: My sprint still works, or . . .||CT1|
Feb 20, 2002 9:05 PM
|That's why I try to always ride with at least one person who's slower than me! .
It's to bad we don't use those long frame pumps any more. Those pumps made fairly decent weapons for these "little" hairy bastards.
ride on and don't look back
|ahh... the good ole days||lonefrontranger|
Feb 20, 2002 9:51 PM
|as mentioned in a post below, I haven't been chased or threatened by a dog since I moved to Boulder.
However, the funniest daggoned thing I ever saw was on a rural SW Ohio ride with my team at the time. This was a hot August Sunday ride and we'd been chased repeatedly during the day, and were swiftly losing patience with the process. On the way back we went past a house that had a Doberman that was ALWAYS loose, and had chased us many times before. This was a common club/team ride route, and the usual methods (nice note from the club to the owner, followed by complaint to the authorities, etc.) hadn't worked. This is when one of my teammate finally snapped. This guy is not only a big intimidating former Marine, he also happens to be a lawyer.
Dog comes tearing out as usual to chase us and dude does a nice CX dismount, keeping the bike between him and dog, manages to grab the dog by the collar and tail without getting bitten, drops the bike on the lawn and hauls the offender bodily up to the front door (dog is now yelping blue murder). He knocks on the door WITH THE DOG, and proceeds to very politely and calmly ask the owner what are they thinking to constantly allow a dangerous dog to run loose on a public throughfare, followed by a brief and rational explanation of liability and due process with twenty-some witnesses (us, along with several entertained passerby) standing there. We never saw that particular dog again.
Another guy from the same team similarly snapped, and chased the offending beast, barking and snarling (the dude, not the dog) around the house for several laps until it hid under the owner's car. I don't recommend this method for the simple fact that it could get you shot, but it sure as heck was funny at the time. I subsequently used this psychology and a few teammates to break my mother's idiot farm dog of running out after bikes, because she was a freaking canine Houdini and Mom never did figure out how to keep her reliably leashed / fenced in. My suggestion of a .22 bullet wasn't well received (apologies to the dog fanciers, but I grew up with dogs and I'm not terribly fond of them). Half-dozen laps around the yard with crazed bike racers chasing her broke her forever of any interest in bikes.
|hey that's my training partner, Eddie (nm)||David Summers|
Feb 21, 2002 9:31 AM
|Pepper spray?||Allen az|
Feb 20, 2002 9:22 PM
|I've been thinking about getting some pepper spray to deal with dogs (is that too harsh?? I don't know). I've been chased by a pitbull too.... scary stuff!
|too harsh? Absolutely not...||Geof|
Feb 20, 2002 9:31 PM
|I'd put a bullet in the damn dog's head. I'm the "no mercy" type when it comes down to dogs. Who cares who's dog it is. Obviously it's a danger, at least to me at the time.
Pepper spray, toxic waste, a bullet, whatever works...
Feb 20, 2002 9:33 PM
|I'm probably going to pick up some pepper spray and learn how to use it. However, I'm not sure it would have been effective against a Pit Bull charging at full speed. I'm actually more concerned about running into a Pit Bull or other aggressive dog while out walking with my kids. I took them for a walk about three hours after being charged and couldn't stop thinking about what would happen if I rounded the corner with a four year old and a 16 month old to find only to find an unleashed Pit.|
|a few tips||Eric16|
Feb 20, 2002 9:44 PM
|I ussually see at least 5-10 dogs a ride and this is what I've learned. Almost all dogs like to attack from the back and this can work to your advantage. Even if they are coming straight towards you, at some point they will alter their line so they can come up at you at an angle from behind. Wait for them to shift directions and then jump. If you don't think this is going to work you can also try spraying them with your water bottle, yelling "stay" at them (effective AND ironic!), or simply raise an arm. Any of these techniques seems to work reasonably well, but I'd say the best technique is taking advantage of their primordial urge to attack from the back...then shooting them with your bop gun (any Funkadelic fans out there?)|
|swing down sweet chariot||collinsc|
Feb 21, 2002 12:38 AM
|and let me riiiiiide
are you hip to easter island?
|swing down sweet chariot||Eric16|
Feb 21, 2002 8:41 AM
|course I am...We have come to reclaim the pyramids!|
|Dogs like to attack from behind..||guido|
Feb 21, 2002 12:23 PM
|and that puts them in a perfect position to get a full dose of Pepper spray or tear gas, if not napalm or defoliant. In fact, unless there's a hellacious side or tailwind, that's the only way. It's worked pretty nicely for me, even with the stupider dogs who probably wouldn't respond to water from w.bottles or frame pumps knocking on their noses. The closer the dog gets, the more effective this method works. Three or four sessions with burning eyes frequently teaches the dog not to chase next time you go by.|
|re: My sprint still works, or . . .||xxl|
Feb 21, 2002 12:59 AM
|I ran over a dog once.
When I was younger, I used ride my bike to work, and get chased by the same black Lab. I could outrun him, but I was getting sick of it. A friend of mine had told me of his method of "charging" the dog with the bike, to scare them away; I thought I'd try it next time. Well, it worked a little too well; the dog saw me change directions to come towards him, and froze right there in the middle of the road. Shocked (I had figured he'd run away, or make a stand, but to just freak???), I couldn't turn or stop, so I had no choice but to hold my line, and roll right over the dog's body. I still can't believe I stayed upright. The owners happened to be out in their yard, but I think they must've been as surprised as I was; they didn't say a word.
Fortunately for all, no one got hurt. The dog got up, ran away yelping, and never chased me again.
I can't really advocate this method, but it worked one time.
|heh||Woof the dog|
Feb 21, 2002 4:21 AM
|ok, pit bulls embarrass me - they are not a fully functional representation of what a god-fearing white anglo-saxon dog should be.
Woof the wasp
|almost forgot||Woof the dog|
Feb 21, 2002 4:22 AM
|wasn't there a thread some weeks ago on this? Bear spray was advertised as the most effective.
good luck, but please don't kill dogs with a gun.
|OK - cross bow it is then.....||Tasmin the Archer Cat|
Feb 21, 2002 4:33 AM
|re: My sprint still works, or . . .||LLSmith|
Feb 21, 2002 6:36 AM
|At some point a dog will probably catch you.It would be nice if there was a way to be prepared.I was talking to my wife about taking a pair of old shorts and having a pouch sewn on the right leg of a pair of good shorts.Something small enough to hold a light canister with a 3/4- 1 inch diameter.I can out run most, but when they are just standing there waiting I usually just turn around and change routes. I would like to be able to send them running.|| |