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Sorry. I meant this to be a topic. (MAJOR rant redux)(35 posts)

Sorry. I meant this to be a topic. (MAJOR rant redux)Elefantino
Feb 20, 2002 2:08 PM
Fellow boarders:

Before I stand on my soapbox, know this: Found out today that my broken spine has not healed at all. Not at all. No bone calcification at all. If it doesn't get better in the next month, the doctor is seriously considering surgery. It would be major surgery, too — cracking the chest to get to the front of the spine.

So ...

To the rest of you on this board, I have this message:


• To you newbies: Stop asking the same damn question as the last newbie. Use the "search" function of RBR once in a while and you'll find every topic you could possibly want has already been discussed here, ad naseum.
• We will no longer tolerate any "which is better, the crappy Trek or the crappy Giant?" or "Is Sora a good gruppo?" questions. Do yourself a favor and spend your money on a quality used bike.
• Unless you have an Italian drivetrain, do not use the word "gruppo." Ever. It's a component group.
• If you have already bought a bike, do not ask "did I get a good deal?" If you can't figure that out for yourself, you shouldn't be allowed to have money.
• Board regulars, resist the urge to flame the idiots. They are what they are, and it's better to let their fecal-minded posts go unanswered. Then they will go away and bother someone else. (Remember "TrollMan"?)
• Do not, under any circumstances, post a "I'm new to road cycling: Should I get a Colnago or a Seven?" question. Ever. If you're that rich, go buy yourself someone to do your thinking for you. Don't expect free advice from us.
• While we're at it, don't ever ask a "which is better" question IF YOU HAVEN'T RIDDEN IT. Unless there are obvious differences between bikes, nothing but your butt can make the decision for you when it's a close call. (If there are obvious differences, surely you can figure those out.)
• And finally, don't call me "Shirley." (Leslie Nielsen in Airplane.)

Oh ... have a nice day


PS to Gregg: Remove this guy "Cherry1" from the board, will you? He's posting porn links. Maybe if you zap his logon he'll get the message. Mike
thanks Elefantinorollo tommassi
Feb 20, 2002 2:13 PM
Totally agree with you, you've ranted for many of us.
so sorry to hear about your condition. keep your chin up!
Always something.....jbrown2036
Feb 20, 2002 2:18 PM
I hope you get some good news soon, sounds like you need some. Heal fast Brother!

Applause, applause, applause!!!! (nm)theBreeze
Feb 20, 2002 2:39 PM
I wish you the speediest and most painless of recoveries! nmmorrison
Feb 20, 2002 2:45 PM
Hey, just a minuteDCP
Feb 20, 2002 2:51 PM
I strongly disagree with your point "Do not, under any circumstances, post a "I'm new to road cycling: Should I get a Colnago or a Seven?" question." This position simply flies in the face of your desire to buy that slightly used C-40! If these people post, and you direct them to buy the bike you want, appropriate dream bike opportunities will present themselves in a few months on E-Bay. Now if you could just figure out how to convince them that they need to buy your size regardless of their body measurements . . .

Sorry to hear about the setback. I enjoy your posts.
my mother is doing a major vertebrae surgery this mondaycolker
Feb 20, 2002 2:51 PM
and my brother is in hospital with vertebrae pain. i can imagine what you are going thru. the only thing i can say is: what doesn't destroy us, makes us stronger..
Colker: I'll keep good thoughts for your mom. (nm)Elefantino
Feb 20, 2002 9:14 PM
thanks andcolker
Feb 21, 2002 4:05 AM
you'll be on your bike at 50mph very soon. time is on your side. these are just clouds on a sunny day.
Well said, brotha !!!DaveL
Feb 20, 2002 2:51 PM
To paraphrase Bob Roll in his OLN e-mail replies, "Cherry1" is just proof that even a 14 yr. old moron can learn to use the internet. Wish you the best in recovery from your back injury.
Feb 20, 2002 2:56 PM
Nicely Stated!

Get well soon
Feb 20, 2002 2:57 PM
Don't answer without experience.... "I read that" and "I rode with a guy whose teammate had one" don't cut it!!!!
I rode with a guy who read that . . .morrison
Feb 20, 2002 3:03 PM
it was o.k. to post what you heard or read, but never o.k. to post what you heard was read, or read was heard.
Yup to all...Geof
Feb 20, 2002 3:02 PM
Bummer about the back... Hope you get better soon. You really should stay off those rollers ya know... :-)
Been there, done that....sort of...rtolle
Feb 20, 2002 3:04 PM
I fractured (thank god it wasn't broken all the way through) the "T-5" vertebra in my back a couple of years ago. I feel for you Elefantino. It took me about a year to get "back to normal," of course you'll never really feel back to normal but all is well now and in a few months you'll be back on that bike again. Good Luck!
Get well soon, Mike (nm).dsc
Feb 20, 2002 3:08 PM
Get well soonCherry1
Feb 20, 2002 3:13 PM
hope you are feeling better soon
Keep the trunk up there buddy! (nm)js5280
Feb 20, 2002 3:44 PM
good luckdjg
Feb 20, 2002 3:58 PM
Sorry to hear it. Good luck with the healing and--if you need it--with the surgery.

re: Sorry. I meant this to be a topic. (MAJOR rant redux)DINOSAUR
Feb 20, 2002 4:32 PM
Wow Mike, bad news! I hope things fair better for you.

Good thoughts with your post. I never could figure out why some people don't realize it's so easy just to ignore someone and they will go away..
get better.gregario
Feb 20, 2002 4:36 PM
Sorry about the bad news. Hope things work out for you.
Guess I picked a bad day to give up smoking.MB1
Feb 20, 2002 4:58 PM
Lloyd Bridges-Airplane.

Man you are all right with me. Hope we get to ride together someday, I'll even kick Miss M off the back of the tandem for you (although you would probably prefer to kick me off the front so you could captain her).

Get well soon.

you have plenty of backersTig
Feb 20, 2002 5:11 PM
That goes for both accounts, the rant AND your back injury. Not much can be said that will really help with the injury, but know we are supporting you as best we can.

Question: Which vertebrae is fractured?
T-7. And thanks. (nm)Elefantino
Feb 20, 2002 9:20 PM
Sounds like a human response.......Len J
Feb 20, 2002 5:30 PM
to what must be a major disappointment. I sure do empathize with you & wish you a speedier recovery. I'm glad you continue to post. I'd miss you if you stopped.

Ditto on the "ignore them & they will go away" thought re flamers. Also agree w/ many of the others. But I remember being a newbie and both not knowing what I didn't know & wanting to belong. It's up to us regulars to bring them up right.

Get well soon

Self-righteous snob: Stop whining!!Ach!!
Feb 20, 2002 6:15 PM
Christ. If you don't like what other people are posting, don't read them. I'm a mountain biker just starting to take on the road, and like it or not, everyone is a newbie at some point and has just as much if not more of a right to come here to ask questions. I should say thats largely the reasons for a board like this. So newbies can learn from more experienced cyclists. Throw 'em some slack. If you don't like whats happening on what you seem to think is "your" board, find a site with more "elites" like yourself. And what were you trying to accomplish with that update on your medical condition? Scrounging for pity to excuse your b****ing? Take a hint from Armstrong; instead of whining about everyone else, take a look at yourself. Man...
Back off, Ach!MikeC
Feb 20, 2002 6:50 PM
This is not just a Board, it's a community, and if it weren't for regulars, there would be no reliable source of information for newbies or anyone else.
All Mike's (Elefantino's) suggesting is that people spend a few minutes of their OWN time looking around at the site before they start taking up others' time.
If this Board becomes nothing but a place where the same questions are asked over and over in an atmosphere of generally juvenile hostility, then the people with real experience and real answers who can help those who are genuinely interested will just go away.
And if you can't feel any empathy for a cyclist with a broken back, I have to question whether you're a real rider. Athletes are ALWAYS concerned about serious injuries to other athletes.
Do you think a titanium spin is better than carbon?king of havana
Feb 20, 2002 8:59 PM
Self-righteous snob: Stop whining!!RayBan
Feb 21, 2002 11:59 AM
For starters I REALLY hope the back heals for you. because being a hardcore cyclist, I can only imagine how hard it is to be facing surgery, and a long recovery so get well soon. HOWEVER I don't think it's right coming off that way to newer members of this site. If I was new and read your post I would have gotten turned off, discouraged etc and wouldn't want to come to this site. Now I know why roadies are sterotypically labeled elitist snobs! Come on dude were here to share info and bike related stories and comments. FWIW even though that Cherry dude initially overdid it in the beginning with a LOT of posts, at least he backed off. If he's postin porn links thats another story and THATS wrong. I am all in favor of KEEPING this a quality site but I've been around message boards for quite a while and the riff raff always leaves if its ignored. If its targeted it retaliates (words to the wise)
Ride on....
Fellow boarders. Thanks for all the kind words.Elefantino
Feb 20, 2002 9:23 PM
I can't believe, though, that some of you board veterans let me get away with bringing up "TrollMan" without so much as even a mild rebuke, or at least a finger wagging.

I'm off my soapbox now.
Best wishescyclaholic
Feb 21, 2002 6:03 AM
As a member of the cycling brotherhood/sisterhood, I'd like to express my most sincere wishes for a speedy recovery from your terrible accident. I am very sorry that you are going through this tough time.

Be strong and heal soon. Hope to see you on the roads this summer.
best of luck, E4bykn
Feb 21, 2002 9:04 AM
I realize that this isn't my own experience, but a friend had similar surgery, going through the chest to repair some vertabrae, and he is doing great. No pain, although he did have to wear a brace that surrounded his torso for 6-8 weeks. Keep your head up, it's always darker just before the dawn.

A fellow Mike.
re: Sorry. I meant this to be a topic. (MAJOR rant redux)Mike P
Feb 21, 2002 4:36 AM
I am sorry to hear the back is not healing. From some posts made a while back, I know you were looking forward to getting back on the bike about now. I guess you have a little more time to spec that new bike.

Get better soon,
Get Well Soon!Greenie
Feb 21, 2002 6:21 AM
I wish you the best, Elefantino!

" I picker the wrong day to quit sniffing glue." Airplane quoteErik W
Feb 21, 2002 10:05 AM
That movie is hilarious. "roger Roger, give me a vector Victor, what's our clearance Clerance, over Under". Of course there are those without vision who don't get it. Good luck with the back.
Erik W