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wil the Bicycle BIGOTS now slam SPECIALIZED without thought(17 posts)

wil the Bicycle BIGOTS now slam SPECIALIZED without thoughtbikejack
Feb 20, 2002 1:02 PM
Specialized Cuts Salt Lake City Painting And Assembly

FEBRUARY 19, 2002 -- MORGAN HILL, CA (BRAIN)--Painting and assembly of bikes at the Specialized's Salt Lake City, Utah, facility will cease at the end of April. Twenty workers have been offered severance packages.

"This is a painful decision for us. The quality of work in our Salt Lake City plant was first-rate," Mike Sinyard, Specialized's president and founder, said in a press release. "But the logistics and cost issues in moving bikes among offshore fabrication, USA paint and assembly and then warehousing facilities around the world have made it prohibitive for us to continue."

Consisting largely of S-Works models, operations will be moved to a Taiwanese facility that Rick Vosper, Specialized's marketing communications director, declined to name.

"It's a new facility that does nothing but high-end assembly paint and detailing. We have our own line in that facility that's dedicated to Specialized. And no, it's not the Merida factory," Vosper said.

--- since Specialized is owned by Merdia (Taiwan); Haro by Kenstone (Taiwan); FUJI by IDEAL (Taiwan); KHS by UEC (Taiwan); Giant by Giant - Taiwan; AND Jamis, Motobecane, Raleigh, Mercier, Felt, Diamondback, and Terry are all made in Taiwan -- we can limit discussion to brands made by real humans who look and eat and worship like we do.
didn't like the bikes before, don't like 'em now - no change -nmjbrown2036
Feb 20, 2002 1:21 PM
re: wil the Bicycle BIGOTS now slam SPECIALIZED without thoughtraboboy
Feb 20, 2002 1:58 PM
i'm sure they are all fine bikes. the reason i wouldn't buy one is because they price them like other bikes, but i am sure that the workers aren't paid as well as an american worker. What the annoucement above says to me is 'it is cheaper to build a new plant in taiwan and hire workers there than it is to keep a currently operating plant with US workers running'. So they will not get my business.

I've never slammed any brand, nor will I start, anyone who wants to buy one, go ahead. i won't.
free trade is good for everyoneroger
Feb 20, 2002 2:21 PM
my car is from germany; my computer from taiwan; my shoes from china; my TV from japan; my component group from japan - except the hubs are probably from taiwan; and all these countries buy Jumbo jets and computer software and medical equipment from the USA -- we all win - and everyones standard of living can go up. In Japan people live much better than they did 40 years ago - taiwan has a way higher standard of living than china - maybe if there is more trade there can be less misunderstanding
Tell that to the workers who Specialized put out of work nmsprockets
Feb 20, 2002 3:07 PM
OK - and you tell usbikejack
Feb 20, 2002 3:16 PM
where are your shoes made? your TV? your Car? your computer?
your crankset and chain and cogs and tires? - time we all listen to Bob Marley - one world ~ one love ~ let's get together
You miss the point, oh well. BTW, everything N.America but TV nmsprockets
Feb 20, 2002 7:14 PM
Feb 20, 2002 4:14 PM
re: wil the Bicycle BIGOTS now slam SPECIALIZED without thoughtCherry1
Feb 20, 2002 2:46 PM
i bet the prices of their bikes dont drop
Feb 20, 2002 3:52 PM
Why are bikes? Does your attitude transfer to all products (i.e. tvs, cars, radios,etc.) I bet not! Get off your high horse!

Tell that to the works who are going to lose their job-sure, I'll tell them. And I bet they will be wearing Converse shoes and fruit of the loom underwear all of which at some time were made in the U.S.A. by a guy who is now out of a job because Asia could do it cheaper!!!!! That is what happens with global economy.
zenith televisionsCherry1
Feb 20, 2002 4:19 PM
dontb forget the guys at zenith televisions
day traderCherry1
Feb 20, 2002 4:20 PM
i bet that guy is a day trader
i saw the movie wall street
BikeJack, here's my suggestion to you:cyclaholic
Feb 20, 2002 8:05 PM
Get a Supergo catalog and buy all the bargain-basement, made in Taiwan bikes you can afford. Go out and proudly display your bike with the French name or Italian name or the American name. Just realize that the intelligent people know that bike isn't made by French, Italian, or American workers.

Just the fact that Supergo (just using them as a most blatant example) always puts some kind of "Italian quality" or "fine Italian tubing" mumbo-jumbo in their advertising highlights the fact that they want to avoid the ugly truth.

It's easy to justify being cheap. You are doing a fine job.
BikeJack, here's my suggestion to you: - NO US bikes anywaybikejack
Feb 21, 2002 2:24 AM
sorry - but I never buy anything from supergo. however, I am not going to fool myself into thinking that a bike is made in the USA - since there are NO BIKES MADE IN THE USA {please see the fed rules on MADE IN USA label -- 98% USA content - there is not one bike that mets that standard)
Also i assume you know lots of stuuf with USA sounding names is just relabeled -- or companies import frames from china -then paint and sticker them here etc etc -- I beleive Adam Smith was correct - read the wealth of nations or take a economies class
Keep on riding your made in Taiwan frame and be proudcyclaholic
Feb 21, 2002 6:09 AM
Keep on riding your made in Taiwan frame with the French sounding name. Brag that you have a French bicycle made with "European quality". Be proud that you got a great "bang for the buck", saving a couple of hundred dollars that you can spend on CD's, DVD's, and video games. Pretend that you know enough about economics that you can justify your actions as being good for everyone.

You may actually impress a person or two.

But you won't impress me.
BikeJack, here's my suggestion to you:bb
Feb 21, 2002 8:27 AM
Why does being made in Asia mean cheap? That is a misconception. I read about just as many Americna and Euro made bikes having quality issues.
BikeJack, here's my suggestion to you:fuzzybunnies
Feb 21, 2002 6:41 PM
sometimes it doesn't have to do with quality issues but what human rights are like from the country of origin. I don't mind buying tiwanese too much but I don't buy anything made in china. Nothing on my bikes or in my clothing. Something I check on everything I buy. But other than the chains I don't think there's anything on my bikes made in taiwan either all italian, french, or american made. Russ