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What's your preferred paceline rotation?(18 posts)

What's your preferred paceline rotation?Alex-in-Evanston
Feb 11, 2002 9:30 AM
Personally, I like clockwise - with the rear riders coming forward on the traffic side, flowing consistently so only two people are exposed at each given moment.

What it lets you do, and this is the kicker for me, is take a glimpse over your shoulder as you shift left - without a rider behind you. You get the unbostructed view of the traffic right where you need it.

off on the leftmr_spin
Feb 11, 2002 9:39 AM
The standard way I've always seen it done is to peel off on the left. Typically you are over against the right side of the road, so the decision is obvious. (That brings up an interesting point: I wonder how they do it in Britain?)

If there is a nice wide shoulder, sometimes I'll pull off on the right, but only if there is enough room so that the line doesn't have to go around me. And I always indicate what I am doing. That's key: if you are going against convention (left), make sure everyone knows it.

Finally, if you are riding into a headwind/crosswind situation, pull off on the side that gives the most shelter. It's always nice to drift back down the line sheltered from the crosswinds.
The answermuncher.
Feb 12, 2002 9:03 AM
In the UK we normally do the same thing - peel away from the kerb to the middle of the road (i.e. to the right). It's pretty rare (unless you are on a closed road - very rare) that you have a choice to get out on the leeward side if that's the left. Nice when you can though, and do able, for what it's worth, with a small number of you on a wideish road.
Always peel on the left.Elefantino
Feb 11, 2002 9:46 AM
We ride country roads on our long weekend trainers and there usually isn't much of a shoulder. It's up to the back maker to watch the front and let the rider who peels know if it's safe to drift to the back of the line.

Ironically, we were on a stretch of very wide-shoulder road when I had my accident, and if I'd have peeled to the right I'd have missed the tree branch.
Feb 11, 2002 10:04 AM
in heavy traffic we "claim" more road space and peel to the right so a rider doesn't appear suddenly in the path of a car thats too close and not cautious.

but be aware that if your pace is somewhat slow you will have a few honking drivers.

sometimes its just easier to ride two abreast and do a rotational thing so that unaware drivers might not think we are purposely just taking up more road than appears necessary.

how i wish for empty roads.
not alwaysJack S
Feb 11, 2002 10:22 AM
if a double you go to the outside regardless... singles peel off into the wind (if safe, usually not though so go left)
re: What's your preferred paceline rotation?maurizio
Feb 11, 2002 10:02 AM
Always into the wind.
re: What's your preferred paceline rotation?Iseemo
Feb 11, 2002 11:26 AM
Always depends on wind conditions (also, of course, depending on the skill level and knowledge of the riders you are with).
Into the wind is most efficient, butStraightblock
Feb 11, 2002 11:29 AM
unless you're always riding with the same people & they all know the routine, someone in the group won't understand. Even though the last 5 or 6 riders pulled through into a right crosswind, inevitably someone will pull through on the left side and screw it up. If you ride with a good team this might not happen, but if it's a mixed club group they always end up rotating to the left, regardless of the wind direction.

On a related note, I've seen a peculiar bit of paceline "etiquette" from some of the local clubbers. After a turn at the front of the group, the lead rider will reach back & slap his buttcheek to signal he's pulling off the lead. The first time I saw this I almost fell off my bike laughing! Do others do this or is it just a central California quirk?
Hiden Message?grzy
Feb 11, 2002 12:09 PM
So what's he saying, "You can all kiss my @$$, I'm out'a here?" ;-)

Our group thing is when you see the lead take a look (or two) over their left shoulder to check traffic then it's pretty obvious that they're going to pull off to the left next. No need to take a hand off the bars, possibly break the pace or have the bike swerve.
a paceline with sketchersdude E
Feb 11, 2002 1:00 PM
that "break the pace or have the bike swerve" when they take a hand off the bars is not one I would want to be in anyway
a paceline with sketchersfl_cyclist
Feb 11, 2002 2:07 PM
I ride in a group of friends that have a wide variety of experience, and some do the butt slap thing. I have grown to hate it, but yet I am uncomfortable with just doing an elbow twitch or finger flick, due to concern that some of the less serious riders might not see it. I have adopted a pointing with my left hand when I pull through.
I've seen people do the butt slap thing. I guessmorrison
Feb 11, 2002 2:15 PM
it's a good idea if you're riding with some pretty inexperienced guys. Generally speaking, though, I think most riders with experience can sense when someone is going to pull off. If the guy is good, he will be following a pretty straight and predictable line. A shift to the left is enough of an indicator to me that he's through. My guess is that most of us can pick up the signal without a forced gesture.
I'm a bit confusedPack Meat
Feb 11, 2002 3:58 PM
they don't slap their butts in a pace line do they? When we do a pace line you just pull in in front of the lead guy whether he is "done" or not. When we'er not pace lining and just drafting in a straight line and the guy up front is done he just peels off, soft pedals or sits up. Some guys will do an elbow twitch. I don't think I have ever seen the butt slap. Is it like the butt slap that strippers do? I don't understand that one either.

Share the Road.
I'm a bit confusedMarlon
Feb 11, 2002 6:02 PM
Uh, no. I've seen the butt slap up north here in Canada... it's more of a tap on the hip actually.
try the "chicken wing"!Tig
Feb 12, 2002 8:38 AM
I'm seeing more of what I call the "chicken wing flap". In a dual paceline, one of the front riders usually tells the other they are about done and then they wiggle their inside elbow a few times to let the following riders know their intentions. It keeps the hands on the bars in any position and can be seen by several riders, even in an echelon. It works well with single pacelines too.
What's your preferred paceline rotation?dave woof
Feb 11, 2002 8:54 PM
I've seen the butt slap. It's idiotic.

If you're peeling to the left, btw - peel into the wind -
look over your left shoulder for traffic, DON'T take your hands off the bars - stupidity in a tight, fast paceline. You hit a rock, crack or whatever with one hand and you will jerk the bike.
Lift your right elbow, or lift fingers off the right lever, but keep hand on the lever. Do all this about at once, the guy behind you will know what you're doing. If he doesn't know, teach him.

stay in the backDog
Feb 12, 2002 6:14 PM
you asked