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Reynolds 853 VS 631 -> best ride on road bike(9 posts)

Reynolds 853 VS 631 -> best ride on road bikebikejack
Feb 9, 2002 6:07 AM
I have been comparing Ultegra Steel road bikes and i am down to three I found at lemondbikes.com, cyclesmercier.com, and bianchi.com -- all three seem similar and look to have great frame work -- but the Bianchi uses Reynolds 631 whereas the LeMond and Mercier use 853. Anyone know what the real difference is? Should I rule out the Bianchi?
re: Reynolds 853 VS 631 -> best ride on road bikeVal Ripken
Feb 9, 2002 7:14 AM
The only real difference between the two tubesets is that 853 is treated to allow for the construction of thinner tube walls and thgus tends to lead itself to a marginally lighter frame. In reality, how thses bikes ride will depend on much more than just which brand of steel is being used. The ride will be determined by total frame geometry as well as size and shaping of tubes used. Also, the fork and wheelset will play a large role as to how each bike handles. It is truly impossiblt to simply say that one will ride better or worse than the other ithout looking at the geometry specs of the bikes, what they are equipped with and taking them each out on a testride to decide yourself. What feels flexy or loose to me may feel stiff to you and vicecersa. Overall, neither tubing by itself necessarily builds a better or worse frame. Hope this helped.
re: Reynolds 853 VS 631 -> best ride on road bikeRusty Coggs
Feb 9, 2002 7:55 AM
Both are air hardening,but 631 is the not heat treated version, and therefore not as strong as 853. 853 therefore could be built into a lighter frame,everything else being equal.No grarantee one will ride better thant the other, and everything being equal one would probably notice no differece.biggest difference is in cost of basic material,and maybe a slight weight advantage for 853.
looked at tommasini.com???C-40
Feb 9, 2002 8:17 AM
The Tommasini Sintesi has a great ride. The paint and chrome work make the others look quite plain. The tubing is Columbus Neuron. Colorado Cyclist has the Ultegra equipped bike for about $1800.

Personally I'd spend a little more and get campy chorus.
tommasini - interesting but heavy and expensivebikejack
Feb 9, 2002 12:52 PM
I looked at the Tommasini and it is interesting but I can get the Mercier for $1295 and the Lemond for $1400 and each is about a lb lighter than the tommasini. I kinda feel the Mercier is the best deal ~ since it seems to have better components and frame and be less money. Unless I find something else in the $1200 to $1400 range that is less money and more bike.
re: Reynolds 853 VS 631 -> best ride on road bikeJaime
Feb 9, 2002 8:59 AM
Do not rule out the Bianchi, it is a nice setup and provides a comfy ride. I had a Lemond Zurich with full ultegra which I would describe as the most comfy bike I have ever owned but weighed in at 20 lbs. A bit heavy for climbing but still a great riding bike. I also currently have the 2001 Bianchi Talladega 631 steel frame with Ultegra. I owned both bikes at the same time and had a chance to compare from day to day riding.
***I am not a know it all cyclist**** but I would say that the Lemond Zurich had a better road feel that eliminated alot of road buzz, wether it was the wheelset or fork as others have mentioned on replies I couldn't tell you but I will say that any 853 steel bike with Ultegra should make a very nice bike assuming you have an equivilant wheelset and fork. Gary at GVHBIKES.COM has several reynolds 853 steel KHS bikes with ultegra for around $1200 and the guy was proffesional with me in my purchases. Good luck. Jaime
Reynolds 853 VS 631 ~ KHS is more money and limited sizesbikejack
Feb 9, 2002 1:03 PM
Thanks for the tip on GVH - but they are more money than the Mercier and no Reynolds Carbon fork. Plus they dont have my size anyway. I think a Reynolds Carbon fork is better than getting a no-name fork ~ maybe I am wrong; but seems correct. Plus I feel better if the frame and fork are all Reynolds.
Reynolds 853 VS 631 ~ KHS is more money and limited sizesSteve H
Feb 10, 2002 7:40 AM
You sound like you have made up your mind and I am not sure what you consider a light bike. I have been looking at bikes in the same catagory and here is what I have found. The 2002 Flite 800 is built with Dura Ace (Ultegra calipers) and Velomax wheels and with pedals, is listed at 18 pounds. You can see it on their website and Mud Sweat and Gears in Lawton Olka. sells it for under $1900. GVH with Dura Ace would be under $1800 and that is with DA calipers and Mavic open pro wheels, no pedals. MSW has a list of bikes they can get you and they seem to run about 15% off suggested retail price. Hope this helps if you are still undecided. Good luck.
DuraAce is Great > but big difference between $1295 & $1800bikejack
Feb 10, 2002 8:46 AM
I would like Dura-Ace - but an extra $500 is a lot. I could get the FULL Dura-Ace Motobecane Team for $1600 ~ But I want Steel. I think steel has the best ride; even prefer it to Ti. And from what I can tell reynolds is the best. Anyway, anything over $1500 is out of my price range.