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broken Colnago c-40(31 posts)

broken Colnago c-40king or norway
Feb 7, 2002 9:45 AM
Someone is selling a Colnago c-40 with a broken/cracked headtube. Does anyone know if and how well this can be fixed and the cost to make the repair. And what about the bikes structural integrity after the repairs. Any thought?
don't even go there....g-money
Feb 7, 2002 9:52 AM
You will have a nightmare on your hands....
My Master X Light had to go back to Italy for repairsBrian C.
Feb 7, 2002 10:01 AM
It was last July when the rear derailleur was snapped off, taking a small piece of the frame with it. How this happened is still a mystery - the LBS owner theorizes the chain must have got caught up in the spokes and pulled the deraiilleur off.
Whatever, seven months later, I'm still waiting for the bike to come back from Italy. They - the LBS and distributor - said the Colnago factory was the only place where the repair could be done properly.
Not sure how this applies to your C-40 problem. But if it has to go back to Italy, better have another bike for summer riding.
Your bike went on an extended vacation ...ACE-
Feb 7, 2002 11:10 PM
to Italy and didn't take you,SHAME on it!
E-bayjvr-oclv
Feb 7, 2002 10:08 AM
Look at it on e-bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1803439310
It's already overpriced at $80...I'd give maybe 5 (nm)Fool poster
Feb 7, 2002 10:40 AM
The 5 guys who already bid on it are bleeping idiotsJulamb Krotini
Feb 7, 2002 11:34 AM
nm
if you buy it he may throw in a good used pair of shorts alsoJulamb Krotini
Feb 7, 2002 11:39 AM
nm
re: broken Colnago c-40RayBan
Feb 7, 2002 10:11 AM
Come on! It's only a carbon bike frame. Why in the world would anybody want to buy a broken fram (made of carbon no less) and go thru the pain of getting it fixed. Its only a frame! It's a nice bike(I owned C40s in the past) but sometimes I think cyclists are blinded by fandom when it comes to that ride. Like I said it is indeed a very nice ride, but JEEZ!
Imagine if you will...mr_spin
Feb 7, 2002 10:17 AM
Looking at the photo on Ebay, I have to wonder what kind of force does it take to do that kind of damage to a head tube. If only one side is broken, as shown, you have to figure the head tube took a direct hit from the side, which can't normally happen in a crash because of the bars.

Your next logical questions should be how did this happen, and what else is wrong? (I didn't read his story on Ebay--maybe he explains this).

It doesn't matter what the answer is. Maybe the components are worth something, but the frame isn't.
Suitable as TGI Friday's decoration at no additional cost (nm)js5280
Feb 7, 2002 10:28 AM
re: broken Colnago c-40slow-ron
Feb 7, 2002 12:11 PM
I bought this junker last and fixed it up myself. It was about 5 times more complicated than I expected and I spent a lot of hours on it but after I paint it I'll have a Master X light for under $120. Not sure how much more difficult it is to fix carbon but you can fix anything if you really want to.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1045119013
No you can't ...pmf1
Feb 7, 2002 12:49 PM
That's a steel bike. Any decent framebuilder could repair a steel bike. Probably a lot of folks with some welding skill could too.

The C-40 is a carbon fiber bike. You can't just melt it back together, or pour some glue in the hole. Even a very high end fabricator like Kestrel or Aegis probably could not fix that. I'd sure find out before bidding on it.

As for the seller ... I think he's being dishonest. I'm not sure a Colnago bike has a warranty longer than one year (which this has surpassed). He's implying that you can buy this, send it to Italy and get it fixed under warranty and get a great deal. I doubt that its fixable, or that Colnago would fix it for you even if it was.

I wonder what the owner did to it to make it break at that point. Never seen anything like that.
Furthermore......Troyboy
Feb 7, 2002 12:58 PM
You'll almost never find a warranty that's transferable.
No you can't ...slow-ron
Feb 7, 2002 1:01 PM
The page on e-bay reads that the bike is not under warranty and that Colango has stated that they can repair the bike for a charge.
Yeah, $2500pmf1
Feb 7, 2002 1:13 PM
That's the charge I bet ... the charge for a new frame. Add a few hundred more for postage.

I guess if you get it for $77 and want to roll the dice, go for it. There are details though. Who is going to represent you? I doubt Colnago will deal with you directly. Will the seller do this? If its such a great opportunity, how come no one at that shop is jumping on it? I smell sleaze.

Hope you didn't bid too much for it.
Yeah, $2500Troyboy
Feb 7, 2002 1:15 PM
That was my guess too. A smooth $2000 plus postage for an oversize box to Italy! LOL
Yeah, $2500slow-ron
Feb 7, 2002 1:19 PM
I didn't bid on it and I could care less who does. I was simply posting the fact that the seller is not advertising the bike as being covered under warranty.
No worries slow ronTroyboy
Feb 7, 2002 2:13 PM
Didn't think you had!
How dare you!Nessism
Feb 7, 2002 1:18 PM
Blasphemy I tell you! Didn't anyone tell you that it's sacriledge to repair a Colnago? Only full blooded Italian artisans are allowed to work on them. And even then, you must first receive the "laying on of hands" by Ernesto himself.

Good job!

Ed
I do like spaghetti, does that count?slow-ron
Feb 7, 2002 1:29 PM
re: broken Colnago c-40Colnago won't fix that crap
Feb 7, 2002 1:32 PM
for anyone other than the original owner. I'm guessing that if they do fix it for someone who buys it off ebay they'll charge you an arm and a leg and then ship it back 15 months later with no warranty. The fact that this clown is trying to charge $25 to ship it anywhere in the US tells me that even at a $1 bid, it's already overpriced by $26. Some people will bid on anything.
re: broken Colnago c-40descente
Feb 8, 2002 12:47 AM
That is a steel frame. Easily fixable by any frame smith or even someone handy with welding. Once welded correctly, that steel frame will ride on just fine for years.

But carbon fiber is a different story....
Now @ $113.50 - 7 drunken optimists; reserve NOT MET!Crankist
Feb 7, 2002 3:59 PM
Now @ $113.50 - 7 drunken optimists; reserve NOT MET!king of cuba
Feb 7, 2002 8:53 PM
well king or norwalk you obviuosly like to complicate things . you must be an lawyer or something. why don't you just buy a new cdale like all the other losers out there and focus on your riding instead. on second thought with all the cheap air fares maybe you can....never mind.
Now @ $113.50 - 7 drunken optimists; reserve NOT MET!king of norway
Feb 7, 2002 9:49 PM
Well actually i'm thinking of buying a top tube and separate seat tube from an early and mid 80's Gios and putting them together with a couple of other tubes around the shop, painting them light blue and making it into a cyclo-cross bike. Oh wait I think this has already been done. Would you have an extra Cannondale, slightly used?
Now @ $113.50 - 7 drunken optimists; reserve NOT MET!descente
Feb 8, 2002 12:35 AM
This eBay auction is just proof of the craziness of the Colnago fandom.

Seems like some will do anything just to say they own a Colnago, including buying a broken CF frame and praying to all the patron saints of the Ghisallo Chapel that there might be a chance that the frame can be repaired.

As much as I love my carbon bike, if I hit a car like this chap did, I would toss the frame. I wouldn't even sell it, who knows what else could happen and I would not risk someone's safety by selling it to them, even if they were well informed.

I think sometimes people are slacky with their common sense because the frame is a Colnago or because the fixer upper car is a Porsche - saying to themselves, it's worth it man.

If this frame was one of those mass Supergo Access carbon fiber frames, no one would even be interested. Because it's a Colnago, well that's worth the risk of maybe dying a bike reck because the CF frame is damaged elsewhere. Ticking time bomb IMO. A carbon fiber frame is only good until it's broken. Even titanium can be a pain. Steel is still the easiest material to repair and reliably ride on.

Or these bidders could just be buying this as something to hang in the garage as art. But even that is falling victim to the Colnago craziness.
Blinded by C40 Fandom... well put descente (NM)RayBan
Feb 8, 2002 6:20 AM
penny wise pound folishking of havana
Feb 8, 2002 7:03 AM
well king of norwalk. maybe you should buy a porsche because a colnago is out of your league.
penny wise pound folishking of norway
Feb 8, 2002 8:05 AM
911 or 91?. No , wait . . . is a 912 considered a porsche or a volkswagen? cheers, Nigel from norway not Norwalk, mr king of altadena. On a more serious note, I wouldn't be seen on a colnago, no matter how much they pay me.
The 914 is the hybrid... not the 912...g-money
Feb 8, 2002 11:28 AM
The 912 has a PORSCHE 4 banger in it (cheaper for the masses) makes a fun race car. The 914 is the Volks/Porsche project....

Don't buy the frame....