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O.K., set on the fixed gear, need suggestions . . .(13 posts)

O.K., set on the fixed gear, need suggestions . . .morrison
Feb 6, 2002 5:31 PM
I decided to go with the urbanite frame and fork (it comes out to something like $245 U.S., which is less than my monthly cell 'phone bill, so what the f---.

What gear combo should I select? I live in San Diego. The areas where I will be riding this rig are very flat. I tend to be a masher, and I want to start moving away from that.

Thinking maybe 42-14, but will that leave me too frustrated re speed? Friend suggested 50-17? Basically, I have no clue. Any advice?

Also . . . run 170s on my other bikes; 165s a good idea for fixed? (worried about cornerning, etc.)

Thanks for help!
see sheldonjohan burnt eels
Feb 6, 2002 6:01 PM
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/

the best advice is for you to ride in a gear on your multi speeds close to what you will build your fixed as. the gear chart will help you figure out whats close.

170's are ok for most frames. i would use what you have available. a flip/flop hub is nice.

if you want to get away from mashing - 5'5" masher :-) then check what the cadence in the gear chart estimates as your speed for an idea. probably 42-16. but go for a test ride close to the gear before commiting.

remember that whatever gear you start off with you will adapt to and want bigger as you improve/spin and progress.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed/index.html
do you have an assembly of parts and bits? for the rest of the bike.

if not how cheap do you want to go? do you want to build with a track hub or adapt a rear wheel you already have?

1/8 or 3/32 chain and cog width?
Ay Johan...Ahimsa
Feb 6, 2002 6:32 PM
Didya see that Shelly Brown has put up a disclaimer on the track hub from Campy? The warranty is void if you use it on the road. Apparently it is too fragile. I know quite a few folks that would be interested in that nugget of wisdom.

Just thought it odd. Not that the hub was not intended to bump around on pavement mind you, but rather that it is too pared down to handle it. I've always thought track stuff would be okay for the most part. Wrong boyo!

Cheers!

A.
i would use campy hubs on the roadjohan burnt eels
Feb 6, 2002 7:17 PM
without batting an eyelid.

warranty or not.

phil wood makes better but how i covett them campy pista hubs.

harris cyclery do offer their own warranty on these nonetheless such is their faith.
Mine are fine.Jesse Smith
Feb 6, 2002 11:32 PM
I've put about 7000 miles on my fixed gear commuter bike in the past three years. The '99 Campy track hub has held up fine. Sure, I have no warranty, but how long are their regular road hubs warrantied for anyways? Longer than three years? I voided the warranty by adding a hollow axle for a quick release also and that's holding up fine too.
Of course I weigh about 140 lbs, so that may account for some of it, but I've beat the sh@t out of the bike.
jesse, a question for youjohan burnt eels
Feb 7, 2002 7:35 AM
i have been thinking about a set of wheels with the pista hubs but no-one had been able to give me a clear answer.

as you fitted quick releases i am wondering if it is possible to thread on a freewheel (is there enough threads) as i have been wanting to space them for a road build with a dished rear wheel. also which axles did you use?

i once read of someone who machined the lockring to be able to thread a bmx freewheel on. if this is logoistically possible then i would happily sacrifice a lockring (>$20) and sell my fixed and roadbike and have one bike for all purposes with a little dissambly to convert either way.

i could think of nothing finer than a set of new highflange hubs that i could use for both multi or fixed or single use. with a little creative spacing of a phil wood bottom bracket and chainring bolts (spacer?) im sure i could acheive a usable chainline depending on the purpose.

i appreciate your views on what might appear as absurd or even wrongly thought out.
Uhm...Ahimsa
Feb 6, 2002 6:11 PM
There is a Suzue brand flip-flop hub that is fixed on both sides. You would do well to get one of these and set up the Urbanite with that two gear option.Gives you a bit of flexibility.

I'm afraid you will have to bite the bullet initialy and just set up a gear combo that sounds good to you. At least this way you get two at a time to play with. You'll figure out what works for you soon enough, and by then you'll have a nice selection of sprockets and chainrings around to custom gear for different conditions.

165's certainly wouldn't hurt.

Does that Urbanite have longish track dropouts? I believe it does. Might want a chain tug for that. Nice little bit of hardware, those.

Let us know all about the project once it's build up is underway. I must admit I'd be inclined to wait for the Urbanite touring frame to come out. Disc brakes? Hmmmm....

BTW: Ay GTX, that On-One SS crosser is plum beautiful mate. On my wish list for sure. Just need a spot of cash.

Cheers!

A.
Uhm...gtx
Feb 6, 2002 6:46 PM
Right now I want a bike with track dropouts, fender eyelets and that is set up for those long reach Shimano dual-pivots. Yeah, the money part is a problem. ;)
Urbanite?werk
Feb 6, 2002 7:12 PM
Where can I find information on Urbanite frames/bikes?
Thanks
http://www.ucycle.com. nmgtx
Feb 6, 2002 8:26 PM
42-14 sounds pretty good for flat...ohio
Feb 7, 2002 7:52 AM
... I'm running 44-16 and the only time I spin out is on downhills, so your combo will be substantially higher. Mine's still low enough to crank up all the hills in Boston.

In fact, 42-14 might be pretty tough in a strong headwind...
San Diego isn't actually flat. Better run a 42/16MB1
Feb 7, 2002 8:13 AM
to start. You had better accept that you are going to be fiddling around with your gears for a while before you settle on whatever.

Ask at your LBS what are the locals running?
I know. But this is not a bike I . . .morrison
Feb 7, 2002 10:09 AM
plan on using for commutes, or even from my home. I live in East County at almost 1000 ft, and about 800 of that is a steep climb to my driveway. I think I'd murder my patellas w/ that climb on a fixed gear. I plan on using it for scheduled training rides on the coast.

But your idea about checking w/ lbs is a good one. thnx