|My girlfriend gets it and i dont!||James|
Feb 6, 2002 12:39 AM
|So i call Shimano in L.A. and ask customer service for a couple of Dura Ace stickers. The guy and i began to talk for a bit and he tells me" I'll throw in a Dura Ace TDF pin for ya too", I was impressed and we hung up. A week later, Nothing!
So i have my girlfriend call( Who has no interest in bikes) and make up some lame story, I mean the story didnt even sound like she knew anything about bikes. So, tonight i drop her off at home and she calls me to let me know my Shimano stuff is at her house.
Now how the heck did she get the stuff almost overnight and i get the shaft? what kind of world do we live in(thats a trick question!)
|re: My girlfriend gets it and i dont!||descente|
Feb 6, 2002 1:07 AM
|You shouldn't be that surprise.
When I goto the mega home center hardware store, it's virtually impossible to get help or have wood cut to size. Most of the staff are men. They just ignore me.
BUT... knowing this, I always ask my girlfriend to ask for help and low and behold, she gets full service. "May I get this for you? May I get that for you?" and the rest is history.
Why? Male human nature. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to generalize... But I just call it like I see it.
|re: My girlfriend gets it and i dont!||descente|
Feb 6, 2002 1:09 AM
|Forgot to mention...
I'd be a hyprocrite if I didn't admit that I have been guilty of such behavior myself...
|When my youngest daugter was three............||Len J|
Feb 6, 2002 4:33 AM
|I got stopped for speeding with all the kids in the car. Cop comes up to the car asks for the usual. My daughter leans up from the back seat & says:
"Daddy, are you in trouble?"
"Yea, Chris, I was going too fast."
"Well, Mom always goes too fast, and she never gets a ticket.......Oh, Yeah, she wears a skirt."
Well both the cop & I lose it, Cop lets me off with a warning. It's amazing what kids notice.
We all, both men & women like to be appealing to the opposite sex, She got the stuff because she flirted with the young guy at Shimano. Welcome to the real world.
|the only way to shop at home depot||slow-ron|
Feb 6, 2002 6:47 AM
|I was getting so frustrated trying to get service in Home Depot that I sent my wife off to look for help. She happened to have on a low cut top. Voila, we had two guys in the plumbing department in 2 min. When I know I'm going to need help I don't bother to go without her while she's in a skantily clad top.
Use it to your advantage grasshopper.
|Good advice. I'm gonna . . .||morrison|
Feb 6, 2002 7:11 AM
|wear my wife's skirt to home depot today and see if I get better help. Should I wear a low cut blouse, too? If so, I'm gonna have to shave above my nipples. Also, maybe I'll wear a dog collar to cover up that give-away adam's apple!|
|youll spur more interest if unshaven ....||johan burnt eels|
Feb 6, 2002 7:38 AM
|but for fun go to a large department store dressed as a man. walk into the lingerie section and ask for help with sizing for your girlfriend that doesn't exist. look a little uneasy and lost. ask the most attractive sales assistant for help as she is the same size. you would be amazed at the reponse.
better still buy something and return it a few days later with a long face and explain that you would like to return the items as she has left you for another man.
punani heaven and not a bad way to kill and afternoon. better fun and more success than a nocturnal adventure as they are not on gaurd.
elaborate - yes, conceited - yes, fair - well.......
and the only downside is that you may have some nice frilly things to wear.. heee hee
|I've got a better one||mr_spin|
Feb 6, 2002 8:55 AM
|I have a very personable and attractive friend who gets all her bike repairs done for free, on a walk-in basis, usually with instant or same day service. If not same day, the guys at the shop will stay well after closing to make sure her stuff gets done for the next day. If I walk in after her, they tell me it will take a week. It's just not fair.|
|the only way to shop at home depot||descente|
Feb 7, 2002 1:15 AM
|OK, then explain to me why...||theBreeze|
Feb 6, 2002 7:18 AM
|When I and my XX chromosomes walk into a bike shop I either get :
3 treated like I can't possibly know what I want or
4 when I do know what I want, they think they know better.
Really cheeses me off and three LBS's have lost my business because of it. It makes me even more loyal to the one or two who respect my intelligence. Oh wait, we're not talking about intelligence here are we...
not a dog
|or shop for a car||Dog|
Feb 6, 2002 7:21 AM
Keep in mind that some idiot bike shop employees will ignore darn near anyone, and don't have a clue about good business. Eddy Merckx could walk in and they'd ignore him, continuing to true some wheel in the back.
|or shop for a car||DINOSAUR|
Feb 6, 2002 11:27 AM
|I thought it was just my LBS that did that. You know what you want, in a hurry, they ignore you. Come in to window shop and they are all over you. I sent my wife to the LBS once to buy a couple of tubes and she comes home with half a dozen, when I go for the same purchase they are out of stock...go figure...|
|Hmm, maybe your x-LBSs are better than Home D....||PdxMark|
Feb 6, 2002 7:59 AM
|by ignoring, dismissing, etc. both men & women??? A much more egalitarian arrangement than the Home D experiences... that sure seems to be the case with our local REI stores - it's amazing how a cloak of invisiblity is slipped on you without notice when you enter the store...
Though, I suspect your x-LBSs aren't ignoring the male customers.... Hmmm, there must be a generalization here somewhere... I know!!!... bike saddle constrictions affect your x-LBS guys so they lose the much more "normal" Home D customer service pattern?
I am glad that you've found LBSs that treat you right
|we can't help it||Dog|
Feb 6, 2002 7:18 AM
|Remember the story of Sampson? This goes waaaay back. It's genetic. Men will stow the brain and run on testerone if they think there is the slightest chance a woman will take the slightest interest in them, even knowing with 100% certainty that nothing could come of it. Start thinking you have a real chance, and, well, see what happened to Sampson.
Despite all our highbrow logic and philosphy, in a way it's a bit comforting to know that we are ultimately all running on some very basic genetic code. It makes life a little simpler and predictable.
|speak for yourself you chauvanist pig (nm)||eD lOVER|
Feb 6, 2002 8:07 AM
|welcome to the forum||Dog|
Feb 6, 2002 8:17 AM
|Well, I see we have a new contributor today, another one of those semi-anonymous snipers who lurks in the bushes and takes a few pot shots now and then, but not really contributing anything meaningful. Your kind come and go, causing a raucous for a while, only to fade away after realizing not many are very entertained by the antics. We've seen dozens like you come and go over the years. Have your fun for a while. Hopefully, you'll not run off too many sincere, interesting people in the process.
|I've been here before (nm)||eD lOVER|
Feb 6, 2002 9:42 AM
|Genetic code blues||Starliner|
Feb 6, 2002 8:37 AM
|i it's a bit comforting to know that we are ultimately all running on some very basic genetic code.
If this is the case, then why is this "natural" tendency of males supressed by various legal and social means? Things are not in balance. We have sexual harassment guidelines, so why not have sexual enticement guidelines to make life less supressive and more compassionate for us males who operate under your genetic code? Imagine, if sexual enticement guidelines existed, there wouldn't have been a Monica Lewinsky...
I think what may partly explain the decal story is that the relative scarcity of females in cycling causes one to jump to attention when encountering one along the way. I'll bet that guy at Shimano would have done the same thing if you'd have had a talking chimpanzee contact him with the same request.
|Damn you dirty apes!||Dog|
Feb 6, 2002 8:42 AM
|Yes, a talking chimp would likely get anyone's attention.
Scarcity is one thing, and partly true, but the male/female attraction thing is fairly universal. We have laws to limit our natural tendencies, frequently.
|I can't remember||L.O. McDuff|
Feb 6, 2002 9:28 AM
|I can't remember the movie/TV show/book/commercial where one of the characters stated to his platonic girl friend that every man looks at a woman thinking about having sex with her.
|When Harry Met Sally nm||Dog|
Feb 6, 2002 9:30 AM
|Uh .... no, I don't think so - nm||McAndrus|
Feb 6, 2002 10:05 AM
|and you don't know why??||colker|
Feb 6, 2002 7:55 AM
|it's called sexual attraction. guys are atracted by girls.|
|and you don't know why??||js5280|
Feb 6, 2002 9:16 AM
|. . .and girls are attracted to expensive jewelry ;-)|
|Sounds like a Riki Lake Show topic (nm)||Me Dot Org|
Feb 6, 2002 9:36 AM
|I think I have property up there( nm)||Lone Gunman|
Feb 6, 2002 12:41 PM
|Try looking at it this way:||morrison|
Feb 6, 2002 10:54 AM
|1. It is probably true that women, in general, get better service from men because of sexual attraction. However, it does not necessarily follow that this type of attention is welcome. I would wager that, given their druthers, most sophisticated women would prefer to be treated equally, knowing that the attention and/or results they receive/obtain comes by dint of merit.
2. Despite the fact that we XYs may start at the back of the line at the lbs, the advantages we face in day-to-day life are enormous. The frustration we feel over being left to wait, or made to pay, probably pales in comparison to the frustration that millions of women feel when they recognize that, on average, they receive less than 85% of their male-counterparts' comparable salaries. Additionally, men, unless saddled with some other physical / social characteristic that induces a separate form of bias (e.g., race, sexual orientation, religion), do not face promotional glass ceilings, sexual harassment (at least not usually), or bias against competency on the part of the general public.
I know this sounds like a feminist rant. It is. I am the devoted spouse of a professional woman, and the father of two wonderful daughters, all of whom have faced or will face sexual discrimination in their lives.
By the by, this post, and most of the others, probably belongs in the non-cycling forum.
Feb 6, 2002 12:34 PM
|your wife and daughters are lucky to have you as their husband/father.
Feb 6, 2002 5:44 PM
|all i will add is.......thank you|| |