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Fork question: Kestrel or Reynolds?(7 posts)

Fork question: Kestrel or Reynolds?bigdave
Feb 5, 2002 9:17 AM
I posted this on the component board, but it seems a little comatose these days...

I wonder if any of you have experience with both the Kestrel EMS Pro and the Reynolds Ouzo Pro to offer a comparison between the two. I'm basically looking for a general compare/contrast about ride, handling, etc.

Anyone?

I am actually looking at these two forks for this reason: CrMo steerer and all carbon everything else. Forks like the Ouzo Comp, Columbus Muscle, etc, use alloy steerers, but also alloy crowns. So, the only difference between my current crummy alum fork and those is a bit of carbon between the crown and the dropouts. Not enough in my book.

But the Ouzo Pro (they do make it in a CrMo steerer) and the EMS are all carbon apart from the steerer. And, the reason I am going CrMo with the steerer is because my head tube is 1" and I go 180-5 at my anemic lightest. I think I am too burly for an all-carbon 1" fork in a 59 cm frame.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for all input.

--Dave
Kestral infoNessism
Feb 5, 2002 10:36 AM
I rode an EMS fork for about one year back in 1996 - 1997 and found it to be quite stiff. My weight is approx. 165 lbs. so a heavier rider may like it better. The current model looks a little different than the one I rode so I can't comment on it or the Reynolds for that matter.

Check the following link for more information.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/rinard_forktest.html

Ed
Also have an interest in these two forks...dsc
Feb 5, 2002 12:17 PM
my current road bike (bought it used, approx. 4 months ago)
came with an Ouzo Pro (1", carbon steerer) installed. I must say, it is a great riding/handling fork.

However, I do expect to replace it by next season because:
1.) although in great shape, it is used (2 yrs, I think).
2.) my riding position continues to evolve, but as the miles pile up and up, I suspect that in the end, I will want my bars higher than the 20mm max. spacers allowable with a 1" carbon steerer.

So these are the two forks I am looking at also.

I do know this about Kestrel: their customer service people are highly responsive. I emailed them a few days ago with a stem / handlebar (I have the EMS Pro carbon bar) compatibility question, and I got a reponse the very next morning. I emailed Reynolds with a different question that same day, and have yet to hear back. Hmmmm...

Very interested to hear what others who have experience with these forks have to say.

-Debi
re: Fork question: Kestrel or Reynolds?Kurt VF
Feb 5, 2002 1:12 PM
I believe the Columbus Muscle is all carbon with the crown reinforced with titanium mesh.
My bad... I meant Carve (nm)bigdave
Feb 5, 2002 1:25 PM
:-)
Follow-up on CrMo Ouzo Pro for BigDave...dsc
Feb 6, 2002 9:09 AM
Dave,

Yesterday afternoon, I got a call at work from Jim Pheil at Reynolds Composites, regarding my fork questions. We had a nice conversation, and I got all of my questions answered. One thing that came up was that the CroMo steerer Pros are no longer being made (basically due to everyone wanting the all-carbon model). They (CrMo) are still listed on their website, and they do have some at the factory, but it sounds like they may be discontinued soon.

They do still have the Comp (made overseas, BTW) but, as Jim mentioned, the all-composite fork is actually a much stronger unit than carbon legs bonded to a metal crown + steerer. FWIW, it he NOT try to to sell me a new Pro (one of my original questions to him was fork lifespan, since I got it installed on a used bike.) Basically, as long as the carbon isn't scored or gouged anywhere, it's good for the life of the bike.

Bottom line, I am pretty satisfied with Reynold's response to my inquries. After I get my position dialed in this season (am going to look around on Ebay for a used ergo stem, and slap that on for awhile), if I do find that I need to go higher than my current setup allows, I will increase my headtube length (Serotta Heads-Up) and go with another Ouzo Pro.

-Debi
Thanksbigdave
Feb 6, 2002 10:55 AM
Thanks for the input Debi... that helps make my decision easier: use the Kestrel, or get a frame with a 1-1/8 steerer and the Ouzo Pro.

I actually think I'll take a stab at the Kestrel for my first carbon experience. I found a local place selling them for a decent chunk off retail so I'll try it.

Thanks again,

-Dave