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Clincher or Tubular(8 posts)

Clincher or Tubularthedarklord
Feb 3, 2002 2:08 PM
What's the difference? I use tubes on my Mavic CPX21 Wheels (road). Does that mean that I need tubular tyres?

It's confusing if you're new...AllUpHill
Feb 3, 2002 2:22 PM
According to the somewhat silly terminology

Tubular = Sew-up = Tubeless = glues onto the rim, no innertubes

Clincher = "Open" = uses inner tubes, no glue involved

The rims are not interchangeable, as in, there are tubular rims and clincher rims. Find a closeup picture of Mavic Reflex rims for example, if you're curious to see what tubular rims look like.

You are using clinchers. Tubulars are not common (or generally wise) for normal everyday road riding.
Feb 3, 2002 2:28 PM
of Reflex rim from Mavic website. Notice the absence of "hooks" inside the rim.
Well, not quiteKerry Irons
Feb 3, 2002 5:09 PM
Tubulars DO have inner tubes, but they are inside the "sausage like" casing, which is sewn together where the bead is on a clincher. To repair a flat with a tubular, you must cut a short length of the stitching, pull out a section of the inner tube, patch it (normally), then sew the tire back up and re-glue the chafing tape that covers the stitching. Not a pleasant task for the novice to contemplate. Sick with clinchers.
who's new?Woof the dog
Feb 3, 2002 8:26 PM
You could put a tubie onto a clincher rim too, and you could even ride it! it would be sort of weird though, as you would almost be riding on the rim's edges. hehehe

Woof, the pootytang dog.
who's new?KingMambo
Feb 3, 2002 10:22 PM
What is the advantagehikerryank
Feb 4, 2002 10:37 AM
What is the advantage? I can see in MTBing that with tubeless, you don't snakebite and can run lower pressure which means more traction and better small bump absorbtion. But on the road, you want to keep the pressure up. Are they lighter? Less likely to flat?
What is the advantagexxl
Feb 4, 2002 1:22 PM
Tubulars, and the rims they ride in, are lighter, and can usually hold a higher pressure, than clinchers, while offering a somewhat better ride(i.e., you'd notice the difference if you were a decent racer). Historically, the advantage of tubulars vs. clinchers was greater until about the late seventies or so, when tire manufacturers really got good at making clinchers. Now, the advantage is not so great; even some of the Tour teams have run clinchers, I hear.

They are expensive to run, and gluing them up is a real pain in the ass. Plus, they can be patched, but it does take a bit of skill, and then you almost always feel the bump of the patch, esp. at 170 psi. Stick with clinchers.