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Help pleasenoupi
Feb 2, 2002 2:27 PM
I have put up a few topics regarding frame sizing and received good advice.
here is my thing, I am 5ft71/2 and with a 32" inseam I was sold a 56cm trek 2200 .I like it a lot but i am always pushing myself back on the saddle when i ride
I find myself steched out when my hands are on the levers
But!! if you look at the pic ,I don't look streched at all ??
The quill is as high as it will go,should I change it for a longer one?
I also do streching exercises but i am stiff as a board...
maybe this is my problem.
yoga; no joke; check seat position; return to lbs for refit nmmorrison
Feb 2, 2002 2:49 PM
general observationtheBreeze
Feb 2, 2002 3:02 PM
Great idea to include the pic.
From what I see your body does'nt look stretched out, but your arms do. Barely any bend at the elbow. When you say you're "stiff as a board" I am assuming that you are refering to low back and hamstrings and maybe hip flexors, because that's what it looks like to me. Do you push back on the saddle to get more power? Or because you feel like you're sliding forward? Saddle tilt may help with the latter.
I wouldn't change for a longer quill if you can't make up the difference by bending forward at your hip. Otherwise you will just feel like you're reaching even more.
A good stretching program focusing on low back, hamstrings, and hip flexors may help, but there is only so much you can do to compensate for genetics or a lifetime of bad habits. And by good program I don't mean 2 minutes after you're off the bike. I mean spend at least 15 minutes every evening, and make yourself hold a stretch for a full minute at a time.
excellent advice... Based on the pic I totally agree... nmgeof
Feb 2, 2002 3:51 PM
more about the saddle tiltTig
Feb 2, 2002 4:30 PM
If your saddle is slightly nose down, you will find yourself sliding forward all the time and having to push back. Many people adjust a saddle nose down for comfort of the more tender areas. If it is nose down, try leveling the saddle flat. If it is already flat, try a slight nose up position. I'm talking one click of adjustment at a time. Before you say, hey, that sounds painful and the opposite of what is comfortable, read on.

Not everyone is the same when it comes to what is comfy. I had soft tissue pains right where the ishium (sit bones) pressed into my saddle. I tried nose up and very little change. I bought a new saddle (the old original Flite had something like 50,000 miles on it and it just plain broke down) and it helped, but it was at a flat angle. I put it nose up and like magic, everything felt wonderful. No more pain because I could ride on the wide part of the saddle where I belong and not slide forward.

Nose up may not be for you, but you owe it to yourself to play around with angles. Several other riders in here have similar comfort improvement stories after going nose up.
some more opinionsCT1
Feb 2, 2002 4:02 PM

I'll start by saying that the pic does help a fair bit. It would also help if your legs/feet were in the pic. If you do repost a pic make sure you get a shot with your feet at the 3 and 9 o'clock position so that KOP issues can be evaluated. I'm willing to bet you're too far forward.... more on that in a bit.

General comments: It looks like you're not getting any (or very little) flexation at your waist/hips. Notice how your upper back is very curved.... that's because you're not getting the bend at your waist. General flexability is what is needed here. Saddle design and adjustment will also impact your ability to rotate your hips forward. What brand saddle are you using? If possible experiment with a slightly forward tilt on the saddle. Also jam that sucker (the saddle that is) as far back in the rails as possible. I've actually taken a grinder to my seat post clamp so that I can get my saddle back even farther than originally possible. You leg/torso ratio is pretty extreme so ..... get that saddle BACK!

Hmmmmm...... you might need to also get some professional help with a good stretching program.

That's it for now..... good luck!!
fit helpmerckx56
Feb 2, 2002 4:56 PM
first of all, raise your seat! i understand that all people do not share the same degree of flexability, but the unnatural angle of your back and neck is partly due to the fact that your seat is too low. if you raise the seat, your weight will rotate a bit forward and flatten out your back a bit, and you won't feel the need to scoot back on the saddle. with that angle, i'm sure your neck is stiff after a couple of hours. go to a good shop and get fit. some know how to do it right and some miss the mark entirely!
my wife takes yoga, and she has helped me stretchPaul
Feb 4, 2002 11:35 AM
I just don't have good stretch, but doing simple yoga stretches has help me a lot, especially in the neck, and back.I spend a few minutes every night, and before/after a ride. I know other athletics who swear by yoga. I would advise going to Colorado cyclist web site. They have a good fit chart. Maybe you should try a yoga class. Perhaps the instructor can really help you in being more limber.

The main thing is to be comforable while riding, not so much what you look like. Lance has a bad position when riding (hump in his back), his trainer has given up trying to get him into a better position. Wind tunnel tests made Lance more aero by tucking in his arms.

good luck