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Dave Hickey or any other 281 riders , I have a question.(11 posts)

Dave Hickey or any other 281 riders , I have a question.Gary
Jan 31, 2002 2:16 PM
I just built up my KG281 and took it for a spin. The frame rides so nice. I did some hard sprints and managed to move the left (non-drive side) drop out in turn causing the rear wheel to rub on the chainstay. Luckily I had a wrench with me and fixed it on the road. Have you ever had this happen? Maybe I should move the drop outs forward so this can't happen again but I would prefer to keep them on the back setting, making the wheelbase long.
re: Dave Hickey or any other 281 riders , I have a question.Ian
Jan 31, 2002 2:37 PM
Yeah, I've had this happen. Did you check the tightness of the bolts before you built the bike? I am guessing not, no one thinks of it. Anyway, once you tighten them down, it should not be a problem.
Okay, you guys will know...jeebus
Jan 31, 2002 2:58 PM
What's the range of adjustment on chainstay length on LOOK frames? I like a bike with short chain stays.

Also what kind of handling do their frame geometries impart? I got an Excel catalog in front of me right now and I'm trying to compare the numbers to my Klein. My Klein is a 1996, and the current Klein website's measures are not the same as my what I think my older Klein's seat/head angles are. All I can tell is that I'd be significantly behind the BB on a LOOK frame.

Thanks!
Okay, you guys will know...look271
Jan 31, 2002 4:59 PM
Stable as a train on rails. Really. Quick enough and not twitchy. I'm completely comfortable on my 271 that uses the same geometry as the 281. I could ride without hands on the bars for miles.
Jeebus and CT1Gary
Jan 31, 2002 5:03 PM
Jeebus, you can shorten the chainstays ou to 1cm. On the geometry, all the Look frames have a 72.5 deg. seat tube angle and the head tube angle is 72 deg. an sizes 49cm through 54cm then 74 deg. up to the largest 61cm and that is a center to center on the frame size.

CT1, no I havent tried that trick yet. I still want to try the different settings to see if I can notice the change in wheelbase.
Seriously doubt....CT1
Jan 31, 2002 6:10 PM
I SERIOUSLY doubt that you will be able to tell the difference. There's only a tiny bit of adjustment available.....

BTW: I just got my brother's 381i ..... HOLY SHIET!!!!!! This thing just blows away ANYTHING else I've ever seen. Including my day old CT1. The technology on the new 381i is phenominal!!! No kidding!

JohnG
Seriously doubt....look271
Jan 31, 2002 7:39 PM
I read somewhere that some of C-dale's former designers are now working for Look. Interesting. The 381i that good? Maybe I see a new Look in my crystal ball....... How's it ride?
ribbet-ribbetCT1
Jan 31, 2002 8:09 PM
The shaping on the tubes that make up the front triangle are very different than my 281. The tubes are externally butted at the lugs! The lugs are also MUCH thinner and the frame tubes expand out in a flare at each lug. WAY TRICK!!! The new front fork looks like it will also be MUCH stiffer than the previous oferings. Makes my 281 looks skimpy and pathetic!

The rear triangle on the 381 is identical to my 281 though.

The 381i frame is going to rock soooooo hard. These frogs really know what their doing. ;) If I didn't LOVE my 281 so much I'd probably get one myself. Maybe I will..... ;)

I should have the bike built this weekend so I'll post some pics and a "review" from my brother.

ride on
JohnG
Sounds cool.look271
Feb 1, 2002 8:44 PM
I really like the KX, though. Any one seen one of those?
re: Dave Hickey or any other 281 riders , I have a question.CT1
Jan 31, 2002 4:35 PM
Did you try what I suggested in the other forum?

JohnG
re: Dave Hickey or any other 281 riders , I have a question.Dave Hickey
Feb 1, 2002 4:03 AM
Sorry it took so long. I had the same problem when I first had my frame. I just tightened down the screws on the dropouts and haven't had the problem since. Like John G said, I cannot tell the difference when I alter the wheelbase.