|Mtbiking buddy getting onto the road. How do I assist||The Pickle Matrix|
Jan 30, 2002 6:32 PM
|He's going to be like a fish out of water. What wisdom could be imparted unto him regarding riding in packs, etiquete and other of the more precise points of our rich historical culture.|
|Advice for your friend....||grzy|
Jan 30, 2002 6:59 PM
|Like when I used to buy condoms and ask sex questions....for, ah, a friend. ;-) |
Tell him that he needs to be smooth, efficient, predictable and above all to conserve energy. Tell him that he's like a car that only has so much gas in the tank and that if he hits the gas or the brakes too hard or often he's going to run out by the side of the road and the other guys will leave him. If the other riders think that he's not respectful they will speed up this process. Realize that the other riders have larger tanks and not to stay on the nose very long - save some juice for the end. Tell him not to pretend that he isn't a hack - they'll see right through it - and to stay the hell off the brakes while in a pace line (pull out into the wind instead). They will like it better if he asks some questions, pays attention and makes an effort to learn. Some guys are going to be dicks (b/c they are) and they'll never be "bros" as in the MTB world. They'd rather crush you than share an experience and this reflects a certain amount of insecurity on their part - their loss really. Keep the bike in top shape and carry the necessary stuff (tools, water, helmet, etc.), but don't expect them to wait if you flat. Be on time for the ride and make time to hang out afterwards and go for post-ride beers & food - if invited. This ain't no disco, this ain't no MTB, this ain't no foolin' around.......
|More advice....||Lone Gunman|
Jan 30, 2002 7:59 PM
|I agree, no thrashing around above the waist, wasted energy, and learn to hold a line. That is the biggest thing I see in converts, for MTBers the straight line thing is a foreign concept.|
|Advice for your friend....||roadies ain't no mtb'ers|
Jan 30, 2002 8:13 PM
|YOu sure got that right. Mtb'ers are classic. Maybe it's the idea of being out in the wilderness or something. Be on a mountain bike is somewhat of a humbIing experience.
I too made the crossover to road and one thing is sure "this ain't no mtb!" Talk about a bunch of cocks! My first ride out with a pack I flatted and they left me behind. No one bothered helping out. On other rides, if they don't know you or if you're not riding the latest, greatest bike forget it, no talking not even a glance from the so called riding buddies. "Yeah right!" When riding by on the other side of the road, they never say what's up or give you the thumbs up. They just ride by looking straight ahead as though they have their saddle up their a$$. "That's right!" Those knuckleheads are so cool they don't even use helmets.
Who needs that crap? Tell your buddy to ride with you or go solo. If he's a mtber he could teach a lot of roadies something they lack..."class."
Jan 30, 2002 11:14 PM
|I started in road, went to mountain for a decade, and am now mostly road again. Tell him to ride predictably. Don't wait till the last second and swerve around something. And the importance of signaling when you are done pulling. I have a MTBR buddy who rides road with me, and he will just quit pedaling and swerve over when he is done pulling. He never lets anyone know with a simple hand gesture he is done. Tell him to stay out of the sand and debris on the shoulder too. He will think he can get through it due to his background, but those skinny tires will put him on his butt guarunteed.|
|Tell him it's still OK to smile...||Rick101|
Jan 31, 2002 9:11 AM
|and greet fellow cyclists! Just because he's riding a road bike now doesn't mean he has to become "too cool" to acknowledge other cyclists he passes.
Just kidding (kind of...)
|re: Tell Mtbiking buddy it's easier to convert to road||Pa rider|
Jan 31, 2002 10:10 AM
|I'm a MTB who used the road first to develope better endurance. I found once you learn the paceline and group riding skills it's not too hard to convert.
I found it's easier for a MTB to learn road skills than teach a roadie how to ride logs, ditches, leaves, and rocks MTB. I'm breaking in my road buddy and boy does he have the scrapes to prove it (He's a crazy downhiller skier, so he makes his own decisions on the speed thing).
I learned that riding MTB in snow helps your road skills when the ass##le behind you rubs your tire or bumps you in a ride (you did yell slowing, but they claim they didn't hear you).
If you can do like GTX said about good spin technie than that will benefit him (that thing about scraping the mud off your shoes, when you start to bring the crank arm up with you foot). I probably waste energy myself by the riding habits I developed.
Maybe he can pay you the favor and teach you how to clear those high logs.