|dura-ace/open pro or ksyrium?||cantdecide|
Jan 29, 2002 2:50 PM
|For everday use, flat to rolling hills, 30-100 mile rides.
Which should I get, price difference is only about $200 for me.
|re: dura-ace/open pro or ksyrium?||mixinbeatz|
Jan 29, 2002 3:31 PM
|I would get the open pros. I have variations of both, and like them both for different reasons. The open pro, is a durable wheel that is easier to fix, the ksyriums look cool and are lighter. I got the ksyriums on pro deal with a complete bike order, but I don't think they are really worth the extra bucks, unless you want to look cool. Riding ksyriums is like a Lamborghini, they look kinda neat and everyone will look at you when you pull up at a stop light and when it breaks the local shop won't know how to fix it and the parts will take weeks to get.|
|re: dura-ace/open pro or ksyrium?||merckx56|
Jan 29, 2002 3:58 PM
|apples and oranges. you're comparing a wheelset that can be used everyoday with one that really shouldn't. if you want a bulletproof set, get the d/a hubs built on cxp33 hoops! the rims are a bit heavier (40g) than the open pros, but roll better and are virtually indestructable. i use 'em for 'cross wheels.
I have a pair of k's that i ride more than i really should and have had no problems at all. they're light, stiff and fast. overall, they're really bulletproof too. if you want the k's for everyday use, get the new elite model. they use a steel, flat spoke, which will probably more durable. mine are two years old, and have lots of hard use but are still perfectly straight and round.
|cxp33's over OPs? Nah.`||jtolleson|
Jan 29, 2002 5:35 PM
|Unless you are a Clyde. OP's are bombproof, lighter, and I think they are the quintessential distance/training/touring/no worries rimset.|
|cxp33's over OPs? Nah.`||merckx56|
Jan 29, 2002 6:22 PM
|I weigh 180 and have summarily destroyed a set of open pros in less than a year. granted, i'm not easy on my equipment, but i shouldn't have to pussyfoot around and worry if i need to get my wheels trued every other week. open pros are great hoops for most, i just haven't had luck with 'em.
40g heavier for the cxp33 (an ounce and a half, equally distributed around the circumference of the rim)is an easy trade to make for increased durabilty.
if you build open pros 32h and 3x, they will, indeed, last a long time. i have a 28h cxp33 (3x) on the front and a 32h (1x non-drive/3x drive) as a 'cross/training set and they haven't been in my truing stand in over a year. plus, the spokes are shorter on a cxp33, making up the weight difference and creating a stiffer wheel.
to each,his own. build what you want, i was just trying to relate my experience with all three.
|cxp33's over OPs? Nah.`||mixinbeatz|
Jan 30, 2002 9:43 AM
|If you weigh 180 and are destroying open pros in less than a year, I would look towards the builder and not the hoops. Anyone your weight(mine too) should not have to worry about destroying open pros in a year under normal use....|
|Exactly right - spot on logic. nm||'Sakes|
Jan 30, 2002 9:46 AM
|Right in my experience too||muncher.|
Jan 30, 2002 9:52 AM
|I'm 210+ and have had OPs on my CX bike, and roadie for training, for over a year and have never needed to true them.
IMHO it's nearly impossible these days to find a rim so bad that you can blame it for failures like yours - you have to look to build/maintainence.
|never said they failed...||richard simmons|
Jan 30, 2002 2:46 PM
|they just weren't as sturdy as the cxp33s. as for the build, they were put together by a wrench with 20 years experience. i'm sure mileage makes a big difference too.
a bit over 4200 miles on these hoops according to the training log (yes, i have ocd!).
anywho, it was just my experience, yours may vary.
Jan 30, 2002 5:36 PM
|I have plain OP Silver on one bike; OP CD on another; both 28Fx32R and have never had ANY problems....only had to have one set trued 6 mo. after build...I weigh 192# (regretfully)
|re: dura-ace/open pro or ksyrium?||Woof the dog|
Jan 30, 2002 6:55 PM
|i would get ksyriums, sell them for profit and build myself durace/open pro combo which is likely to be cheaper - they are lighter, more serviceable, will cost you only 10 sec in a 40km tt vs the K's, and they are just as strong.
If this is your sponsor giving you the wheel choice like that, I would still go for durace/op. but that is just me. There is no significant weight saving, only some, and that depends on nipples and spokes for the open pro. So if you really get either, they will both work well. I, by the way, prefer the simplicity of ball bearings. I think Ks are sealed. no?
2 cents is a lot of money
Woof, the money-counting honey producing dog.