|trek vs. lemond vs. klein||stik__boy|
Jan 29, 2002 6:30 AM
|trek 2300, lemond zurich, or klein quantum.
6'00"--- 165lbs. mt. biker looking to get back on the road.
|Why don't you flip a coin?||Barnyard|
Jan 29, 2002 6:55 AM
|No easy answer.||Elefantino|
Jan 29, 2002 7:30 AM
|Aside from the fact they're all made in the same factory, there are a lot of differences, mainly one big one: Aluminum vs. steel.
The Zurich is an all Reynolds 853 steel bike, the other two are aluminum. Steel has a more forgiving ride then aluminum but aluminum is stiffer. That means one bike is theoretically more comfortable over the long haul and the other is better for sprints and climbs.
Have you ridden them yet? If not, all this is theoretical because your rear end will tell you what you like best. It's hard to "tell" one person which bike to buy because there are so many variables.
Are they all good bikes? Sure. Are there better buys out there for the money? Sure.
No easy answers here.
|re: trek vs. lemond vs. klein||Harry Hall|
Jan 29, 2002 8:44 AM
|Former employee of Trek Empire dealer says this:
Skip the 2300, it rides very harshly. Trek has no reason to offer this bike other than marketing, which is not a legitimate reason. They stopped making a less fashionable, slightly heavier, but more comfortable riding bonded aluminum bike because one of their marketing schlongs said it wasn't a cool frame anymore.
Klein is the best aluminum on the road because they don't throw the old designs away and start over every two years they make small, careful changes. The quantum is not spectacularly different from a 1990 model but there is a rational, well-developed reason for every change.
Zurich is the very most bicycle for the money spent that you can get; you could call it 80% of a Serotta for 50% of the money.
|Forget the trek, then ...||PdxMark|
Jan 29, 2002 9:51 AM
|choose between the lemond & the klein by how they feel and FIT you & your intended use. The Trek is not likely to approach the sweet Al ride of the Klein (I used to have one).
After fit, which may be the biggest difference, consider your intended use... centuries & double centuries might feel better on the lemond... 50-60 mile climbing rides would be wonderful on the Klein. For a mix of both types of riding, let fit decide...
Of course, these are all really Treks, by corporate ownership (& use of Icon parts), but they are different bikes
|From another mtb'er turned roadie...||dsc|
Jan 29, 2002 11:51 AM
|try the Zurich; I did, and I love mine. Great ride as the miles pile up, and since my reason for buying a road bike in the first place was to ride centuries (and eventually doubles), this was the bike for me. Climbs pretty well, too, and can be built up fairly light, if that's important to you (mine is just over 17 lb for 55 cm).
Make sure you 'try one on for size', though, as Lemond's geometry will have you more 'stretched out' than most.
At 5'10", I would normally be on a 57 cm on some other frames, but went with the 55 on the Zurich, and made the appropriate stem / seat post height adjustments.
|17lbs is pretty light-- How is yours built up?||Bo|
Jan 29, 2002 11:59 AM
|Just curious. I've never weighed mine, but I'm guessing it's closer to 20lbs with Ultegra, OPs, Salsa quill stem and an old Flite Ti saddle. I'd love to shave 2+lbs. |
|17lbs is pretty light-- How is yours built up?||dsc|
Jan 29, 2002 12:16 PM
|I actually bought the Zurich used (it's a '99) from a fellow who manages one of the LBS's around here. Of course he had access to all of the trick parts, so when I got it, about the only thing left stock on the bike was the frame :)
Anyhow, it's built with full Dura Ace, Am. Classic Ti post,
Kestrel carbon bars (my addition) and the two biggest weight savers - Ouzo Pro (carbon steerer) fork and Vector Pro (not the Comps) wheels. If I remove the Look pedals, it tips the scales at 17 lb. even. Pretty light, but I don't race, and don't really hammer when I ride, so it suits me fine.
|re: trek vs. lemond vs. klein||Troyboy|
Jan 29, 2002 2:18 PM
|I've put many many miles on a Quantum Pro. It's hard to beat. Despite what those who have never been on one say, they're perfectly comfortable for centuries as well. They are incredibly responsive.|
|re: trek vs. lemond vs. klein||jrm|
Jan 29, 2002 3:59 PM
|i like lemonds because the TT's run long and sizing is on the small side. But thats for a 5'8 rider with a 31.5 inseam in shoes.
You my friend have to see which one fits the best..period.