|Better climber Zurich or Quantum||JMR986|
Jan 28, 2002 10:26 AM
|Temp hit 60 yesterday so headed to the park with the hybrid. Trail was 6 inches of mud so headed to the parkway and attempted "the hill." One mile straight up with a short plateau midway. About 45 degree incline! Almost made it halfway then bailed. |
Now the question. I've narrowed my road bike search down to a Zurich and a Quantum. Haven't ridden either, but did get a fitting on the Zurich Saturday. Which bike is a better climber? I'm going to be doing a lot of hill work. More fitness on the roadie vs long rides (50+). Opinions?
Jan 28, 2002 12:20 PM
|Interesting choices... 853 Reynolds steel vs aerospace grade "Gradient" aluminum. You would do yourself a favor to test ride the Klein also. Both are different animals with different geometries. The Zurich has a laid back seat tube angle that Lemond favored when he rode in the peloton. The Klein has a steep st angle with a more foward riding position. I've never ridden a Zurich but all my old road bikes had relaxed st angles. My conclusion is that it probably depends on your climbing style. If you like to stay seated and scoot back in your saddle you might favor the Zurich. On the other hand, I prefer to stay seated, stand occasionally, and have my KOP 2cm back on my Klein. I like my Klein as it is stiff in the bottom bracket and it doesn't flex while I am hammering up the hills (if you can call what I do at my age ("hammering").
For what it's worth, I ride nothing but hills because of where I live....your climbing might depend more on the way your bike is set up and what cassette you choose to go with.
Which bike speaks to you? When it comes to new bike choices I get emotional, dumb way to make a choice, but that's how I make my decisions.
Also~ no matter which bike you buy you will second guess yourself. I love my Klein, but my next bike will be steel or ti, not because I don't like al, but because I don't want two al bikes, nice to have a choice...
Remember...it ain't about the bike
|re: Better climber Zurich or Quantum||jtolleson|
Jan 28, 2002 12:29 PM
|You didn't say how big you are, but I know that a couple of the bigger, stronger riders in our club say they can flex the BB on the Zurich (well, I guess some folks can flex almost anything).
For purely climbing, I can't believe that the Quantum is not the best solution; I'd say the same thing from sprinting. But the nice thing about the Zurich is that it is quite good at EVERYTHING (stable descents, comfy centuries, and certainly capable of climbing and descending). While the Quantum will climb and sprint more responsively than its slack-tubed steel brethren, I wonder about long distance comfort or twitchy descents (comparatively).
Quantums are as pretty a production bike as there is, IMO.
|I narrowed down to the same two myself........||utusan|
Jan 28, 2002 2:45 PM
|...........and ended up the the Klein.
I really liked the Zurich in terms of steel feel, but the Klein was a real rocket with great paint and craftsmanship. After my third test ride of both, my mind was made up.
In terms of climbing, i think the quantum has the advantage.
1) its lighter (something you'll appreciate on short or long rides)
2) stiff (but comfortable) aluminum plus solid stays equals full transfer. i have never felt that a turn of the cranks was wasted. with the lemond, there was some give, but the klein is pure acceleration.
3) it may be personal perception, but the geometry puts you in a great climbing position.
standing or sitting, climbs zip right by.
I try to test ride both within the same time frame. it all boils down to how you feel about the bikes.
|I want both!!||Lone Gunman|
Jan 28, 2002 3:10 PM
|I currently ride a 99 Zurich, and looked at Kleins this past week. I want to buy used or year old frame unbuilt. My old trainer duty bike is a Schwinn first gen alu that was supposed to have been built by Klein for Schwinn. But I want a go faster bike to compliment the Zurich and Klein I think is the frame of choice.|
|re: Better climber Zurich or Quantum||Troyboy|
Jan 29, 2002 2:25 PM
|Another plug here for the QP. Mine is part of a stable and has suited me well.|| |