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Heart Rate And Coffee....Snapping Chains And Shimano!!(14 posts)

Heart Rate And Coffee....Snapping Chains And Shimano!!BigLeadOutGuy
Jan 27, 2002 6:54 AM
Hey All...I havent posted for some time now...Ive been quietly training for the upcoming season but I just wanted to get another perspective on something...How caffiene effects your heart rate. I was thinking that the caffien would elevate your resting HR and in turn making your riding HR above normal. So maybe not having any coffee or caffien in your system would lower your HR making you ride a little but faster? Does this make any sense? whats your oppinion?
I also have an update on my campy to shimano switch...So far the shimano parts work awesome...the levers are taking some time to get used to but other than that everything is pretty sweet...but I do have one problem and its a biggie...I am snapping chains apart like crazy...It always happens when I jump out of the saddle to start a sprint! I jump up and put everything I have into the up pull on the crank and than Im left there....chainless with the poor thing laying in the street getting run over by cars =( the strange thing is that I look at the chain before riding and it always looks fine. Does anyone else have this problem? Whats wrong with me? =) Should I get a stronger chain? Dura-ace chain maybe? Help Help Help!!
thanks everyone
stay stoked
re: Heart Rate And Coffee....Snapping Chains And Shimano!!I Love Shimano
Jan 27, 2002 9:30 AM
First and foremost, I'd like to congratulate you for turning your back on the dark side of road cycling (hee hee hee). Kidding aside, I've heard that a Shimano chains are relatively weaker than their Campy counterparts. One example of a pro breaking a chain would be that Mexican guy with Panaria Fiordo who was ahead of the peloton in this mountain stage during the Giro d'Italia last year. Poor guy would probably have won the stage.

Just curious, what influenced your decision to switch over the holy grail of cycling aka Shimano?
I hope you recognize fictional ramblings. nmDog Breath
Jan 27, 2002 10:06 AM
I Just Didn't Like it! *gasp*BigLeadOutGuy
Jan 27, 2002 11:49 AM
I switched to shimano cause I had never ever used anything shimano ever...It was all campy...And I figured that maybe I should try might be better for me. So I did and I think it might be a good far I am loving my ultegra stuff and I think my next bike I build will be all dura-ace. I think the biggest thing between campy and shimano is that shimano is practically maintenence free. I have yet to adjust anything and its been probably 500+ miles. Maybe I just dont know the nuances with campy stuff..maybe my campy stuff didnt like me cause I am not italian...maybe I just needed a change of pace and shimano was there! haha
stay stoked
re: Heart Rate And Coffee....Snapping Chains And Shimano!!KEN2
Jan 27, 2002 9:57 AM
Are you using the special snap-off chainlink pin that comes with the Shimano chain? If not that may be a cause.

And actually the documented effect of caffeine is the opposite of what you surmise: while it may elevate your RHR, it seems to make the apparent workload easier, i.e. it's easier to ride hard.
I Am Going To Tank Up!BigLeadOutGuy
Jan 27, 2002 11:40 AM
I didnt want to have to stop drinking my 300 cups of coffee a day! =)
Now that I have this new found info I am going to double my intake!
Beware...I Love Shimano
Jan 27, 2002 11:55 AM
Too much caffeine, and you'll end up like Dario Frigo and Niklas Axelsson.
or Bungholio ...tarwheel
Jan 28, 2002 5:15 AM
as in Beavis and Butthead
chain suggestionCT1
Jan 27, 2002 3:46 PM
You might want to try an SRAM or Connex chain. I'm not a Shimano user (did two years ago) but if you're breaking chains then it's pretty obvious it's time to try something else. Hmmm..... I could say something rather caustic here but I'll refrain.... hahaha ;)

I did notice that one of your other posts implied that you were having adjustment problems with your Campy gear. Hmmm...... any clues as to the cause of the problems. Did you ever resolve them. ??? Just curious.... as I've put a little over 10K miles on C10 drivetrains and can honestly say that they are pretty simple to adjust and seem to need very little re-adjustment. Oh well.... maybe you've got some bad Italian mo-jo to work out. ;)

ride on and good luck with your racing this season.
forgot to mention: caffeineCT1
Jan 27, 2002 4:02 PM
I've read in many places that caffeine is a VERY effective boost for athletic output. That's why they test for it. I'm sure if you did a web search you could find some accurate comments re its effect.

ride on
reminds me of a story ...tarwheel
Jan 28, 2002 5:25 AM
Back when I used to be a runner, my brother read an article in Runner's World talking about what a performance booster coffee was. My three brothers and I were planning a 6-8 mile loop run that morning up in the mountains, so we all drank a couple cups of coffee just before we left. (We weren't big coffee drinkers at the time.) About halfway through the run, one of my brothers peeled off into the woods with a case of the trots. A little while later, another brother did the same thing, and then the other. Myself, I was barely holding it in and just made it back to the house in time to race to the bathroom. After we all got back home, we pulled the magazine out to read the article, and there -- toward the end -- was the disclaimer that my brother missed: Warning, drinking lots of coffee can also have a laxative effect. (This is mainly a problem for people who don't drink much coffee. But all coffee drinkers know that it makes you pee more.)
No Coffee, No Cycling . . . Know Coffee, Know Cycling!!DT
Jan 27, 2002 9:00 PM
You can't have one without the other...I get a headache if I don't drink my Joe in the morning, and I get a headache if I don't ride in the afternoon! Unfortunately, I get quite a bit more coffee than cycling in!
Think about what you're saying here.bill
Jan 28, 2002 3:11 PM
The premise of your question is that a lower HR makes you ride faster. Lower resting HR may be a result of greater fitness, because your big, strong, healthy heart will pump the same amount of oxygenated blood at a lower HR, which your finely tuned body uses more efficiently, so that your heart doesn't have to beat as fast as when you were fat, but that's an effect, not a cause. Artificially lowering your HR is not going to do anything for you other than, well, make your heart beat slower. You'd have less blood flowing to your tissues; that ain't gonna help you.
about Coffee...Dutchy
Jan 28, 2002 5:02 PM
An Australian runner Robert DeCastella, once said that drinking coffee before a marathon will make
the carbohydrates release slower into your system, obviously this helps with endurance sports.

This is probably why cyclists at the Tour Down Under where drinking several cups before the race started.

I am guessing that "just" 2-3 cups of coffee won't register as a positive drug result.