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CT1 frame & Star fork for $1250.00 Good ?(21 posts)

CT1 frame & Star fork for $1250.00 Good ?noupi
Jan 26, 2002 1:19 PM
Frame as 300 miles on it.
Owner as 2 C-40 and does not like the CT1...
re: CT1 frame & Star fork for $1250.00 Good ?RayBan
Jan 26, 2002 1:22 PM
$1250 for a CT1 is a real good price!
I feel so unwanted ..... ;)CT1
Jan 26, 2002 2:17 PM
Assuming it's the non-BSTAY version, that's a pretty good deal for the buyer. Hmmmm, the seller could probably get more for it so I wonder why he's selling it at that price. Is this a sweetheart deal for a friend??

If it's a BSTAY then it's a VERY good deal for the buyer.... I doubt it's a BSTAY though.

good luck and please don't say any more bad things about me.... ;)

I feel so unwanted ..... ;)noupi
Jan 26, 2002 2:43 PM
The bike is 2 years old.
So non b-stay I guess.
The owner is a rich bike nut,he as a dozen bikes,2 c-40s,a couple of sevens,ect !!!!
He does not like the flex of the CT1 and finds it harsh.. ??
i saw the add a a local LBS.
They set up all this guy's bikes. And will take my measures to see if it fits me.
The star fork scares me a bit, I hear that sucker is really stiff.
I want a smooth ride :-)
The CT1 is not that nice!!!Dontdoit
Jan 26, 2002 3:07 PM
Sorry if I offend someone, but it can always be found cheap because it is junky Russian grade ti. The worksmanship is poor on many of them although I am sure there are a few better ones out there.
The fact that the guy admits he hates it says a lot. Being that he has a lot of $$$$, he is probably more objective about bikes in general because unlike most of us, he can afford to dislike a bike. Most of the rest of us will love our bikes no matter what because we spend so much $$$ on them, so we justify.
Go with American ti. We know how to work with it here and the craftmanship is far superior as is the ti itself. I am not saying the CT1 can't be a nice riding bike, but of the ones I have seen which are around a dozen or so, I have found many cosmetic flaws in the ti surface and where the carbon and ti are bonded (very sloppy with the adhesive kinda built up in puddles.
The paint job is better than the bike!!!
Jan 26, 2002 3:16 PM
I had a STAR fork on a MXL and it was a REALLLLY stiff SOB. Perhaps some of the harsh ride was the MXL frame as I'm a little light in the poundage department for the MXL. In any case, that frame/fork combo really beat me up big time. Funny, because other MXL owners (including my brother) say that the MXL is very smooth. I've also heard from C40 owners with Star forks that thought the Star fork wasn't overly stiff. This is probably one of those VERY subjective issues that ONLY you can quantify.

FWIW: I've had a lot of seperate contacts with CT1 owners and they almost almost universally liked the frame. However, I did have one racer fellow say that the rear was a bit too laterally flexy for his tastes. There was also a recent comment by a RBR poster with something to the same effect. This is probably a weight/strength sensitive issue so YMMV. The bottom line here is that if the frame fits it's probably worth a try. Worse case situation is that you'll have to sell it..... but at the price you're getting it at that shouldn't be a real problem.

BTW, what's your "bike inseam" length, your height, your riding "style", and the frame size of the CT1?

ride on
Jan 26, 2002 10:40 PM
My inseam is 32 inches 5ft 71/2" 160 pds
I ride easy,60,80,100 mile trips ,I do not ride with my hands in the drops, the roads here are pretty bad,I want a smooth ride.
The CT1 is a 54cm center to top of seat tube.
Jan 27, 2002 6:50 AM
You got lucky.... that's the RIGHT size for you! My CT1 is a 54cm also.

If you get it, please post some pics and a review.

ride on
re: CT1 frame & Star fork for $1250.00 Good ?bornin1964
Jan 27, 2002 5:10 PM
I ride a CT1 that I bought for 1700 including D/A. It is a sweet ride, very little road chatter - this bike has a Look fork on it. As for the guy who says that it is cheap russian ti, you sound like a candidate for the pepsi challenge. gimme a break.
Read my post againDontdoit
Jan 27, 2002 5:23 PM
and you'll see that I say it may be a fine riding bike, but the facts are the facts that Russian ti is inferior. In fact, they call the CT1 6-4 ti, but when in fact, it isn't quite 6-4 by American standards. The blend is of lesser quality. Why do you think there is such a big difference between a Litespeed 6-4 and the Colnagos?
I want to add this too!Dontdoit
Jan 27, 2002 5:28 PM
Here is an excerpt from a primer on titanium I gleened off the internet during my research of ti bikes. A simple search will get you information like this. This is from Merlin (pre-Litespeed)about Russian (crap) ti. You should be buying American anyway.

Merlin has worked with a few groups from Russia for the past four years, but so far the quality of their products has been unacceptably low. Raising the quality will require heavy investments in tooling, processing and equipment, which in turn will increase costs, probably to levels equal to or greater than those in the U.S. Reliable delivery is also problematic, in part due to Russia's political situation. With no assurance of a stable supply or guaranteed shipments, the immediate future for Russian titanium seems questionable at best.
hey Lazyridergtx
Jan 27, 2002 5:36 PM
it's getting old.
Now I'm confusedmickey-mac
Jan 27, 2002 5:41 PM
I can't figure out if this is Lazywriter or someone trying to bait us into thinking he/she is Lazywriter. Well, I'm going to go open that Chimay that's cooling in the fridge and give my tired brain a rest.
Now I'm confusedgtx
Jan 27, 2002 5:51 PM
Yeah, me too--I was kind of waiting for you to nail him. Well, the response should clear things up in a jiffy. I can't decide what is more enjoyable--the indignant denial or the total insult-ridden freakout. I guess the only response that would be truly shocking would be no response (that's a hint, Lazywriter).
Now I'm confusedmickey-mac
Jan 27, 2002 5:56 PM
What's funny is that you can post a two-word reply to a message posted under one of his many aliases: e.g., "Hey, Lazyrider!" He'll then respond with a 700-word, profanity-laden diatribe about how we're freaks for spending so much time and energy on him. It beats waiting in line and paying $10 to see a mediocre big studio movie.
Since you guys seem to want to hear from me,Lazywriter
Jan 27, 2002 8:33 PM
here I am!!!! Sorry fellas, once again you guys are off base. Jumping to too many conclusions on circumstantial evidence. Mickey-macdirtysmellydouchebag should know better than that. Isn't he an attorney? No wonder I can't stand him. I get a kick out of how clever you idiots "think" you guys are and I assure you that you couldn't match wits with me. I may speak with a lot of vulgarity and seem rather "unpolished", but I am not stupid. You guys on the other hand keep reinforcing your stupidity by incessantly falsely fingering me as someone else. Why waste the energy on me if I am such a troll???? I thought you guys ignore trolls and they go away. But like Michael Corleone says in that god-awful Godfather III, "once I think I am out, they pull me back in". Stop talking about me, its rude!!!!
Take care
Lazyrider <^> {º­º} <^>
This is so much funmickey-mac
Jan 27, 2002 9:27 PM
that I want to do it too!!! What a stupid *$(&ing jerk#*& you are. All of you are a buchn of Litespeed bashers and as far a I'm concerned you can all go have a big circle jerk (ha ha!) Honestly, why don't you guys get a life??? YOu're just a bunch of obsessed jerks. Your Columbo act is really wearing thin!!!
I grew up in Brooklyn and we used to kick the @$$e$ of jerk(*ffs like you after school every day. If I hadn't gotten so fat from sitting in my parent's basement for the last 8 months, I'd ried over to your house and kick your @$$ right now. You guys really need to focus on something else, as your obsession with me is getting creepy.

Regards, GLG
Hehehe, that was pretty goodLazywriter
Jan 28, 2002 4:42 PM
sh$%head. So good that you convinced me that you have it in you to be an obnoxious douchebag. You pretty much got everything correct except the living in the parent's basement. I live under a bridge. You seem to have basically synthesized all of my ramblings into one concise paragraph. More evidence that you are an obsessed homo. But you know what, this last rambling almost makes me think you may actually have a sense of humor.
Believe it or not I have my degrees in psychology and I am not pretentious about it either. I don't like all the pseudo-intellectual psychobabble crap. However, it doesn't take Sigmund Freud to figure out your "affection" for me. Not in a homo-erotic way, but more in an "I find you entertaining way". That being said, I allow you an outlet to express and justify your own vulgar side as you can "justify" responding to my posts and quite often assuming I am other people with your more aggressive side. I remember a while back, other guys on the board thought you were a weinie and asked if all yo did was post all day. This apparently hit home and you said you would take time off from the board as you agreed you were somewhat of a loser. Answer me one thing, are you obsessive compulsive? I mean do you have everything very orderly and need precision in everything you do? You must have the cleanest house and car. A bit anal-retentive? Honestly, I am curious if you have any self reflection/ awareness of this. If this isn't you, so be it, but if it is just admit it.
Have I posted under other names? Yes, but not the names you think.
You see, at this point if I have a legitimate question to ask, I won't post under Lazyrider as I am a marked man. So most of my aliases go unnoticed by you as they are more pleasant posts. So you are 99% off base when you think I am the only guy who posts about Litespeed. I find you as entertaining as you find me. But your still a jerko$$.
Yo MikeCT1
Jan 27, 2002 5:55 PM
check this out: I'm thinking of doing this!

Get any good rides in lately???

ride on
Better you than me!mickey-mac
Jan 27, 2002 6:01 PM
Don't bother to pencil me in. I'm not even going to pretend like I'm going to do that ride this year. Yesterday I went out to the Santa Clarita Valley, and it felt like it was about 20 degrees colder than it was in Granada Hills. Despite the relatively cold temps, it's been nice having a dry January (at least until today). I've done some nice rides so far this year.
Better you than me!CT1
Jan 27, 2002 6:36 PM
MM.... OK, hopefully I'll have some interesting tale to tell about it. I would like to find someone else to go with me though.

Hey, maybe we passed each other on Sat? I did a big loop up to Vasques Rocks .... I thought the weather was pretty good actualy. ;) It's been BA cold lately and Friday and Sat were pretty nice. Today was not good though.... did you get caught in the rain. I barely made it home with just a tiny bet of wet getting us.

ride on