|Calfee tetra-pro custom or Colnago C-40 ?||ebs|
Jan 24, 2002 8:28 PM
|Which would you want and why?|
|re: Calfee tetra-pro custom or Colnago C-40 ?||CT1|
Jan 24, 2002 10:01 PM
|checkout the Calfee web site. There's a REALLLY knowledgable guy over there named DonC who has both. He can give you the skinny on the ACTUAL differences.
IMHO, you can't go wrong with either.
|My C-40 has ruined my life ...||pmf1|
Jan 25, 2002 5:18 AM
|After getting it, I look at all other bikes and just think "Really nice, but I wouldn't trade my C-40 for it". I have no more bike envy. Nothing to dream about. It sucks. |
Honestly, I think you can't go wrong with either.
The biggest con of the C-40 is that there is essentually no warranty. Then again, they have a reputation of never breaking, so perhaps none is needed. The biggest pro (besides the ride) of the bike is that it is beautiful. The paint job is amazing in real life. It has a great ride. Stiff, compliant, great cornering and very comfortable. Don't let the geometry experts tell you that it probably won't fit because of short top tube. I've got three 56 cm bikes. All three have 110 mm stems. If any of them could take a shorter stem, it would be the C-40. Don't call Colorado Cyclist up and pay $3800 for the frame. You can get one lots cheaper from Europe. I paid $2500 for mine in Italy. You can get one of these UK or Italian mail order places to send you one much cheaper.
I have ridden with two people who have Calfee Tetra Pros. They seem to like the bike. One reported having to send it back twice for repairs, which were done promptly. You get a good warranty with these bikes. They're a bit homely IMO, if that matters to you.
I'm sure either one is a great bike. I'd say Calfee is Colnagos closest contender. I guess the Calfee is custom, but do you really need a custom bike? For me, that would not be a factor.
To answer your question ... I'd get the Calfee only because I already have the Colnago. Any ideas how to convince my wife to let me do this?
|I feel your pain...||TJeanloz|
Jan 25, 2002 8:14 AM
|My Vortex has every imaginable trinket attached- there's nothing to dream about. I would like a C-40, but it would get all the same parts my Vortex has, and I couldn't give up the Vortex frame- it is simply to perfect for me. It takes quite a bit of fun out of things, because there is absolutely no bike part to dream about.|
|Maybe in a few years when the NEXT dream comes out? ;o) -NM||Tig|
Jan 25, 2002 8:29 AM
|Do Ferrari owners feel the same?||pmf1|
Jan 25, 2002 9:23 AM
|I suppose, the way things go, by 2004 I'll be wanting the C-40 with the C-stay, or D-stay. Soon a 2.2 lb frame will be pretty common place and I'll be lusting after a set of 325 gram carbon cranks.|
|I don't know,||TJeanloz|
Jan 25, 2002 9:58 AM
|But I wouldn't mind finding out first hand.|
Jan 25, 2002 10:01 AM
|I think the 2001 C-40 is good enough. I can't believe I'm saying that, but other than knocking a few grams off, I wouldn't know what to change.
With a full Record setup, not much to change there, either. The carbon crank is a possibility, but I'm not biting unless the price comes down and the bugs are worked out. It would be tough to throw out a perfectly good Record crank in the process, too.
There always seems to be a better wheel, though. Heck, the new Zipp 303Z whatever would be a nice upgrade, but costs almost as much as the frame. I'd be a little hesitant to be riding around on a $10k bike.
The bike lust does largely disappear with the C-40. But, you can always think laterally, like adding a Softride, time trial bike, etc.
|2005 Colnago C-40 C-Stay||pmf1|
Jan 25, 2002 10:09 AM
|Come on ... you know you'll want it.|
|maybe in a track version?||Dog|
Jan 25, 2002 10:21 AM
|My C-40 is largely a garage decoration right now, I'm enjoying the fixed gear so much. Yes, enjoying myself on a $500 bike.
I know Colnago makes an aluminum track bike, but a carbon track bike would be really cool, maybe in a Geo paint scheme, too.
Just kidding. I'm done buying bikes for a while.
|Calfee Tetra Pro||Tig|
Jan 25, 2002 8:24 AM
|After researching and riding a Tetra Pro I'd personally go with it (if I only had the $). I'd love to have a C-40, make no mistake! But for a few hundred less than a C-40 from England, I think it is a better overall deal. For the full blown US price of a C-40, you could have a Calfee Dragonfly w/fork. I wouldn't need a custom since the standard size would work for me. Sure, Colnago has some beautiful paint works, but the prismatic effects or even a fade can look cool on a Calfee. There are almost no Calfee's where I live, but plenty of Colnagos (many with Freds, but you can say that about any bike) to be seen. Technically, I like the Ti droupouts and the quality CF tubes Calfee uses. CF is and has been his focus, and he does it well. The 25 year warranty vs. Colnago's zero warranty is something to consider.
The gussets on the lugs are the only visual detraction with the Calfee's. It goes to show he is concerned with function over form.
Test ride both. Get fitted and see which geometry works best for you. You can't lose!
|The third option||sherpa23|
Jan 25, 2002 12:58 PM
|What if you could get a bike made in the US, engineered with the proprietary technology of the carbon for the Stealth bomber, a bike that has the good looks of a bare C-40 (not the goofy gussets of the tetra), but updated with better crabon fiber, bigger diameter tubing, 1.125 head tube, a good warranty, and better sizing to fit more people, all for the same price as a C40 bought in Europe and shipped over. All you pay for is the engineering, materials and the labour - so you don't get ripped off paying for Ernesto's multimillion dollar sponsorships of pro teams. Here's the bike - www.parleecycles.com|
|The third option||Troyboy|
Jan 25, 2002 1:37 PM
|Sherpa23, you on Parlees? Just wondering. You still running Lews? How's the season shapin' up for you?|
|The third option||sherpa23|
Jan 26, 2002 8:16 AM
|I am not on a Parlee yet, but hopefully soon. After seeing them at Interbike and talking to some of the big CF engineers in the industry, I was pretty impressed. I can't help but think that if more people saw these frame no one would mention Calfee in any of these threads and the allure of the C-40 would be greatly diminished. I am, in fact, riding Lew's again for the 2002 season. As I have said before on this forum, I think that these are the most durable of the light/aero wheels on the market. I have not raced yet but I heading back overseas for 6 weeks of racing in 2 weeks. Then I will have a good iea about how the season is shaping up.|
Jan 25, 2002 1:17 PM
|can you find any calfee on the tour? no!
calfee are great bike bike i would buy a C40 instead becasue of it reputation as great bike and it looks hella lot better than a calfee tetra custom
|Yeah, you can ...||pmf1|
Jan 25, 2002 1:35 PM
|I believe Greg Lemond rode and won the Tour on a Carbon Frames bike. This was the company that eventually turned into Calfee. I think Craig Calfee has always been the fabricator.|
Jan 26, 2002 12:11 PM
|GL did ride on a CarbonFrames. I found one for sale here w/ Campy C-Record. Click on the link for "Greg LeMond Alpe d'Huez". Looks like this was an actual "Z" team bike at one point. cool. pricey though...
CarbonFrames - Greg Lemond Tour Bike