|speedplay cleat failure||Bro|
Jan 23, 2002 4:35 PM
|I've been using Speedplay x3s for a couple of years now. Three times the metal spring has broken towards the end. The first time it happened my lbs told me to call Speedplay. Speedplay customer service said I overtightened the bolt and the pressure caused the spring to bind and then break. I replaced the spring and was sure not to overtighten, but again the spring snapped toward the end. |
Has anyone else experienced this? Could it be the shoes or do I need shims? FYIW I'm using Diadora Cosmos.
Any suggestions or comments are appreciated.
|re: speedplay cleat failure||Woof the dog|
Jan 23, 2002 11:30 PM
|how often do you replace your cleat? also, did you replace the butterflies?
I donno man
|re: speedplay cleat failure||BroBiker|
Jan 24, 2002 8:58 AM
|I didn't replace anything on the pedals. Every few months I take them apart for a cleaning and lube. Should I replace the metal springs, plastic base and/or metal cleat? How often should I replace parts? Would I have the same replacement/maintainence with look cleats? |
Thanks for your help.
|re: speedplay cleat failure||Woof the dog|
Jan 24, 2002 12:17 PM
|Are you a heavy rider? When the springs start to get flatter and flatter you need to replace them. Make sure you get the correct set of new ones from the bike shop, as there are different types of speedplay replacement springs (springs are the same but the plastic holed plates are not). Another bad sign that you are not maintaining your speedplays is the groove on the pedal spindle (or axil) that occurs due to the spring rubbing against it. Speedplays are not your regular non-maintenance SPDs. They need lube and cleaning of the springs (don't take them apart though, just try to do the best job with a rag around the springs). I use pedro's extra dry lube and clean/lube pedals before every ride. Doesn't take much time and no snapping problems. Another thing to look into is replacing metal butterflies on the pedal body. It will cost you ~30 dollars but it is better than getting a whole new set of pedal bodies for 80+ dollars (you shouldn't need to do that). Maybe your problem with snapping springs is that you let them get too dirty so they grind down quick and snap in a flattened place?
Remember that you should not overtighten the four cleat screws. Make them as tight with a light pressure of your hand and then give them another half a turn. Locktite should keep them in there. When the outer metal plate starts grinding down completely exposing the screw heads, get new cleats. When overhauling your bearings, try to remove as much locktite off of the axil screw (that goes under the black cap) as possible. I've had all the shop guys trying to back these screws out for the bearing overhaul (on two sets of pedals, not just one). They could do it only after about 10 minutes of painful and tiring trying and stripping some of their torque wrenches (speedplays went with torque screws, if there is such a thing, from your regular hexagonal type). There was a talk about using a reverse type of bit to drill it outta there. The point is, locktite keeps the screw more than tight enough in there, and you'd be better off cleaning it all off. Just from time to time check your pedals whether they are solid on the axil or that screw needs tightening you shouldn't have a problem at all.
If you keep breaking the springs, I don't know what to tell you. Get road Keywins, less float but the same weight as X2s and good solid lock-in.
I hope this helps
Woof the speedplay dog.
|re: speedplay cleat failure||erocco|
Jan 24, 2002 11:32 AM
|I just had a similar experience. Was riding on Sunday, felt a little looseness in my right cleat and a second later my right shoe is unclipped and the spring is totally flared out and bent. Looks like someone took a pair of pliers and pulled on the spring from the open-end side of the cleat plate. Anyway, the spring was trashed. I went to my lbs and they said they'd never seen it before. Of course, my LBS told me the screws were probably loose and as I came around the cleat was shifting and couldn't stay on (I have no idea, but I check my cleats before every ride, including Sunday's, and they were not loose before I went out and this happened within the first 5 miles). I had about 1000 miles on these cleats, and while I did not take them apart to clean them, I kept them clear of all debris and lubed them regularly. The LBS gave me a replacement spring/plate. They assured me that they had nothing but good feedback on the speedplays. I don't know -- if this happens again, I am going to switch. If these things fail after a 1000 miles with no warning -- no thanks.|| |