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Attn: California riders...(5 posts)

Attn: California riders...BadBiscuits
Jan 23, 2002 6:03 AM
Got this in an email from Supergo, if you ride offroad, might be interesting.

By law, National Forests must revise their plans every fifteen years.
California's Forest plans are up for renewal, and the Forest Services
are holding hearings about trail areas in the 4 Southern California
forests --Los Padres, Cleveland, Los Angeles and San Bernardino. These
meetings are run in an extremely critical opinion-posting format,
offering trail users of all types to meet and discuss the future uses of
the trails in these areas. Many prime areas for mountain biking are
currently marked to receive "P" (primitive) designations, meaning that
all mechanical users would be excluded permanently--no 4WD vehicles and
NO MOUNTAIN BIKES! Worse still, once in effect, these rulings could
remain for the next 15 years!

Southern California residents should attend one of these meetings and
let their opinions be heard ? the more cyclists that show up to these
meetings, the more likely it is that there will be another 15 years of
fantastic trails to ride in Southern California. The rights of Mountain
bikers to use these valuable recreation areas should be maintained. Be
sure to refer to us as "Cyclists," not "bikers" for the obvious reason.
Check this list for a meeting in your area. Remember---you're an
important voice and in many cases, the only voice. Bicyclists have no
powerful lobbyist or big bucks to influence officials.

Angeles National Forest

GLENDORA: January 29, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Glendora Public Library 140 S.
Glendora Ave. Glendora, CA.

LAKEVIEW TERRACE: January 31, 2002 6:00-8:00 pm Lakeview Terrace
Recreation Center, 11075 Foothill Blvd, Lakeview Terrace, CA.

SANTA MONICA MTNS: February 4, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Comfort Suites, 25380
The Old Road, Stevenson Ranch, CA.

PALMDALE: February 5, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Ramada Inn, 300 West Palmdale
Blvd., Palmdale, CA.

WRIGHTWOOD: February 6, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm United Methodist Church
Fellowship Hall, 1543 Barbara Street, Wrightwood, CA.

PASADENA: February 13, 2002 6:00-8:00 pm Pasadena Conference Center,
300 East Green St, Pasadena, CA.

Cleveland National Forest

January 12, 2002 9:30 am-12:30 pm Nydegger Building (Olde Fire Station),
31421 La Matanza,San Juan Capistrano CA. RE: Trabuco Ranger District

January 17, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Ramona Community Center, 434 Aqua Lane,
Ramona, CA. RE: Palomar Ranger District

January 23, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Alpine Community Center, Sage Room, 1830
Alpine Blvd, Alpine, CA. RE: Descanso Ranger District

January 31, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm East Valley Community Center 2245 E.
Valley Parkway, Escondido, CA. RE: Palomar Ranger District

February 2, 2002 12:30-3:30 pm Chula Vista Literacy Team Center, 389
Orange Avenue, Chula Vista, CA. RE: Descanso Ranger District

February 9, 2002 9:30 am-12:30 pm Corona Public Library, 650 S. Main
Street, Corona, CA. RE: Trabuco Ranger District

Los Padres National Forest

January 24, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Rancho del Rey Conference Center, 655
Burnham Road, Oakview, CA. RE: Ojai Ranger District

January 28, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm South County Regional Center, 800 West
Branch St, Arroyo Grande, CA. RE: Santa Lucia Ranger District

January 29, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Goleta Valley Community Center, 5679
Hollister Ave, Goleta, CA. RE: Santa Barbara Ranger District

January 31, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Community Hall, 300 Park Drive, Frazier
Park, CA. RE: Mount Pinos Ranger District

February 5, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Pfeiffer Big Sur State Park Conference
Center, Highway 1, Big Sur, CA. RE: Monterey Ranger District

February 6, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Salinas Community Center, Gabilan Meeting
Room, 940 North Main Street, Salinas, CA. RE: Monterey Ranger District

San Bernardino National Forest

January 26, 2002 1:00-4:00 pm San Bernardino County Fire Station 15
Angelus Oaks, CA. RE: Barton Flats area, San Bernardino County

January 30, 2002 6:30-9:30 pm Big Bear Discovery Center Hwy 38, 6 miles
east of Fawnskin, CA. RE: Bear Valley & areas east of Deep Creek, San
Bernardino County

January 31, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Garner Valley Commons 61600 Devil's Ladder
Rd, Garner Valley, CA. RE: Federal lands in Garner Valley, Riverside

February 5, 2002 6:30-9:30 pm Bonnie Oehl Elementary School, 2525 Palm
Ave, Highland, CA. RE: Front country & Cajon Pass, San Bernardino

February 6, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Idyllwild Fire Dept. Conference Room,
54160 Maranatha Rd, Idyllwild, CA. RE: Idyllwild & areas to the north,
Riverside County

February 7, 2002 6:30-9:30 pm Hootman Senior Community Center, 2929
Running Springs School Road, Running Springs, CA. RE: Mountaintop
communities west of Deep Creek, San Bernardino County

February 12, 2002 6:00-9:00 pm Anza Valley Community Center, 56630
Highway 371, Anza, CA. RE: Federal lands surrounding Anza, Riverside

Non-Southern Californians should also consider the options and
opportunities you have to support mountain biking on your local trail
system. Check with your local National Parks or Forestry offices and
find out what issues are currently being considered, and get involved!
Jan 23, 2002 7:04 AM
What reasons have been given to exclude cyclists from the forests? Just curious what the beef is. Thanks.

Soil erosion; ground cover denudement . . .morrison
Jan 23, 2002 7:31 AM
Not saying I agree; these are what I have heard.
Jan 23, 2002 7:34 AM
Its the same old issue of hikers v horses v bikers. Everyone wants trail access open only to their mode of transportation. Here in socal its a never ending fight to keep trail access open to biking. With crowded trails comes problems of erosion and misshaps with hikers and horses. Lately the powers that be have recognized that bikers are legitiment land users and have been pretty open to suggestions. I hope this keeps up. IMBA amd other groups have done a good job to keep trail access open.
re: Attn: California riders...Pa rider
Jan 23, 2002 1:27 PM
Hey bud. We're having this battle now in Pennsylvania with our state game lands being closed. The fed's said they would cut DEP (Department of enviroment and protection) federial grants if they can't prove they're preserving wildlife (over 3 million dollars).

Ours went through our legislative in the house to vote on it in January. We have IMBA involved to help us fight the house bill. Their giving us crap about only riding on sundays and designated trails and roads.

We had to unite a MTB orginzation to build a chapter to fight DEP. This went on all last year. If you guys don't get involved your politicians will write you guys off. It's all about money from the feds.

Our DCNR and DEP doesn't have a large budjet, so they rely on federal funds. If you want to talk to some people, who we have on the commitee, you can go to site

We had those open house also, but they didn't want alot of input from us. When it hit the paper here last week alot of senators got their public screaming at them about this new houe bill.

We had to unite with all users (horses, hikers, ATV, snowmobiles, and MTB) to fight our house bill.

Good luck