|Psst. Wanna see a cool set of wheels.||Sintesi at home|
Jan 22, 2002 7:15 PM
|1350g/pr clincher. Deep Aero Rims. Kevlar spoked and crazy design where the spoke is routed around the hub rather than to it. Here's the key element though $700. Check it out. Anyone know about these guys?
|re: Psst. Wanna see a cool set of wheels.||ishmael|
Jan 22, 2002 8:37 PM
|looks good...topolino?? why does everyone have to pretend to be italian when it comes to bikes....my one concern is if the spokes are durable....|
|re: Psst. Wanna see a cool set of wheels.||descente|
Jan 23, 2002 6:27 AM
i was just having this conversation the other day.
we were talking about supergo naming their bikes italian sounding names like "scattante".
Jan 23, 2002 6:59 AM
|What are those, fishing line lead weights on the spokes?
They fail to list the 2002 Zipp 303 clincher at 1380g for comparison. Sort of a glaring error.
It seems to me that the fatter spokes would catch more air.
They talk about a "sensible" spoke count. Nothing is sensible, other than what it takes to make a certain wheel build sound. If 3 spokes does it, then that's sensible.
Jan 23, 2002 8:33 AM
|Yeah, it reminds me of those Spinergy wheels from a few years back w/ the multi colored "vectran" spokes. It seems people complained of squishiness and the lack of aerodynamics then. But, 1350 grms on a clincher? I know, probably a fudge, but that is going to be tempting at price comparable to Ksyriums or Velomax. I'll be interested to see what comes of this.|
|I'm way skeptical||grzy|
Jan 23, 2002 12:23 PM
|Maybe the guys from this new company are just flunkies from Spinergy that couldn't let go of an idea. Even Spinergy gave up on the vectran spoke concept with subsequen "new and improved" designs of the month. BTW - any one know what the Spinergy design for this month is - I've lost track. |
What exactly is the main selling point of these wheels over whatever else someone may be interrested in? That is why would one buy them? Is weight and a soft ride the only consideration? How does one true the wheel with out having the other end of the spoke affected - they'd need some kind of a stop/clampoing mechanism so that the force isn't transfered.
They seem like a novel and unproven design for squishy wheels with fat spokes for going fishing - IMO.
|How about this....||Scott Baryenbruch|
Jan 23, 2002 9:12 AM
|With american classic hubs, the new 350 gram bill shook clincher rim and 24 revolutions up front and revolutions non-drive, 14/15 drive 28 spoke rear you should come darned close to 1350 grams. All for under $400.|
Jan 23, 2002 11:29 AM
|Youre not supposed to talk about these on a public forum!|
|who's building these bill shook wheels? nm||jeebus|
Jan 23, 2002 12:12 PM
|Myself, yourself, anybody you trust.......||Scott Baryenbruch|
Jan 24, 2002 12:37 PM
|Built a set of Velocity aerohead/american classic/revolutions for my brother last summer and they came out to about 1460g (I think) WITH the american classic skewers. use lighter skewers and the new 350g clincher rims and the weight drops by over 100g. By the way my brothers wheelset cost $320 total and has performed flawlessly. Once you build a few wheels you won't want to pay to have it done anymore and you will certainly realize the absurdity of "botique" wheels for the everyday rider.
|the spoke is routed around the hub rather than to it||nf|
Jan 23, 2002 9:17 AM
|you mean like ADAs?|
|the spoke is routed around the hub rather than to it||Sintesi|
Jan 23, 2002 10:12 AM
|I don't know ADA's. Are they similar to these? Got a link?|
|Never mind snooped it myself.||Sintesi|
Jan 23, 2002 12:30 PM
|$2,600! No wonder the pros love them, someone else is paying for them.|
|the spoke is routed around the hub rather than to it||mpm32|
Jan 23, 2002 10:23 AM
|These wheels are crazy light. I've seen/felt them in person. The owners/designers spoke to us about them at one of our meetings. The team I ride with is testing some of these wheels. They look pretty cool and the concept seems sound. Topolino means little mouse in italian and there is/was a mouse in the barn where they developed the wheels and the name stuck.|
Jan 23, 2002 12:04 PM
|Looks like someone got all carried away with integrating kevlar and forgot to go to aerodynamics class. Sure they claim that the oval shape is better than round, but fewer and smaller spokes is still prefered. What's up with the fishing sinkers out by the rim? 30 of those suckers isn't going to be trivial. I bet the rotational moment of inertia isn't too good either. Ultimately I'm skeptical until there is more data provided. I guess one could use them for climbing and something else for descending..... |
They'll probably last in the market place about as long as a super nova.