Jan 18, 2002 8:54 AM
|I must not be as flexible as Greg Lemond.
I bought and set up my bike largely based on Lemond’s book. Everything is fine except I don’t ride on the hoods as much as I probably should because I feel too stretched for comfort. I don’t think I want a shorter stem because I would be too bunched up in the drops. As I have it now, I am pretty comfortable in the drops.
I was thinking of positioning the hoods up a little on the bar. I have seen suggestions here and elsewhere that this has a pretty high dork factor, but I was really thinking a only a ½ inch change or so.
Good idea? Bad Idea?
|Hand position on bar relative to comfort...||Cima Coppi|
Jan 18, 2002 9:05 AM
|I would say there is no specific need to spend any percentage of time riding on the hoods relative to the other positions on the bars. What matters is to ride in the position most comfortable, and if for you that is the drops, then stick with that. It's more aerodynamic to ride on the drops anyway.
As for the position of the brake levers, you can certainly adjust their position on the bars, but make certain the final position you put in is adequate for climbing out of the saddle while on the hoods.
|re: Hood position||KEN2|
Jan 18, 2002 9:38 AM
|Another consideration in moving the hoods up the bars is, can you still reach the levers from the drops? Very far up and you'll find that you have to cock your wrists at a very odd angle to reach even the tips of the levers from the drops. 1/2" is probably the max.|
|re: Hood position||kyroadie|
Jan 18, 2002 10:05 AM
|A shorter stem may be what you need or raising your bar heighth via a riser stem or spacers. Another consideration is the design of your bar. I had a set of Modalo handle bars whose design had an extra bend that resulted in the hoods being pushed a full inch from my normal hand position on the hoods. I replaced the Modalo bars with a standard design and the problem went away.|
|re: Hood position||Mel Erickson|
Jan 18, 2002 10:24 AM
|There's nothing wrong with adjusting the location of your brake levers for a more comfortable ride while using the hoods. As others have said, just make sure you can comfortably reach the levers while in the drops and climbing is comfortable too. There is some latitude. If you have big hands you can position the levers higher and still reach them from the drops. The location of the levers/hoods is a very individual thing. You need to do whatever works best for you. Who cares what others think looks dorky (I seriously doubt anyone will notice a modest adjustment of 1/2 inch). I am also somewhat inflexible. My levers are probably mounted higher than most but I also have large hands and can comfortably reach the levers in the drops. I spend most of my riding time on or near the hoods and having them in the most comfortable position for me is most important.|
|Move your seat forward a little.||Sintesi|
Jan 18, 2002 1:48 PM
|If that "bunches" you up then at least you haven't shelled out $60 for a new stem. It's okay to roll them back. Take a look at the riders in the pro peloton. Their levers are all over the place. You might as well try stretching too. A big part of being a cyclist is teaching your body to adapt to the rigors of cycling. Start the levers a little high and move them down a smidge every so often. Soon you will be sprawled out like a young Erik Dekker on a long breakaway. :)|
Jan 18, 2002 2:24 PM
|Saddle position is NOT about reach to the bars, it is about rider position relative to the crank.
Even if you aren't a KOP purist, you should be selective your saddle fore-aft based on pedaling dynamics, not based on reach.
If reach is an issue, it should be addressed with stem length, maybe bar size, maybe overall bike fit.
Sliding a saddle up to improve reach only trades one fit problem for another
|C'mon he can do it a little : )||Sintesi at home|
Jan 18, 2002 7:53 PM
|KOP is a guideline, as are all bike fit formulas. I say fudge it a little if it don't feel right or hurts. Besides, he may be set too far back for all we know. Isn't the seat tube angle pretty relaxed on a Lemond anyway?
But you are right. One shouldn't screw up one good fit for another. It's good point.
|OK, maybe a little! :)||jtolleson|
Jan 20, 2002 1:00 PM
|But I still say ONLY for reasons related to pedaling dynamics, not for reasons related to reach. That's like lowering your seat because your drop to bars is too great. The fix is wrong for the purpose and can create other difficulties.|
|I concede and defer. Thanks JT. (nm)||Sintesi at home|
Jan 20, 2002 1:41 PM
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|re: Hood position||SteveS|
Jan 18, 2002 3:04 PM
|Go to Cyfac's website and look under fit or fitting and you will find a picture of their recommended hood position ridden by various pros in last year's Tour de France. Quite high and angled upwards. I have moved the levers on all my bikes to this position and like it much better. Good luck.|
|Dorky pointed up huh, like this guy?||JS|
Jan 18, 2002 3:11 PM
|ALOT of pros run their levers pointed up higher than what is considered standard, Lance and Tom Steels come to mind. I run mine pointed up because I like it. People have said " your levers are pointed up too high they look goofy" these are the same guys that get shelled from the group on the fast local training ride, so who's the dork.|
|Thank God !||coonass|
Jan 18, 2002 6:46 PM
|At least Lance & I have ONE thing in common.....my hoods are this high too....(& my buds have been giving me the 'strange looks'......boy, I DO feel better.
Merci' beaucoup !
Jan 18, 2002 9:27 PM
|Thats the same as the Cyfac recommended position which I have moved my levers to and I like it. Very comfortable.|
|Another dork?||John S.|
Jan 18, 2002 10:30 PM
|World champ Oscar Freire looks pretty stylin with his levers high on the bars. Forget what others think if it's only based on style and not substance.|
|I'd try this first:||nee Spoke Wrench|
Jan 18, 2002 5:09 PM
|Try rotating your bars in the stem just a bit. That will raise and shorten your reach to the hoods and won't affect the relationship of the levers to the bottom of the bar. You won't have to retape the bar either.
Also, notice in the picture, the rider who has the high lever position is not using an ergo-bend bar. Ergo bends drop away from the brake lever more sharply so that any upward movement of the lever body will significantly lenghten the reach from the drops to the brake lever.
|re: Hood position||JS|
Jan 21, 2002 7:30 AM
|Is your fit less important than what others might think? Do you want to sacrifice comfort because someone might think you are a dork? Do what works. You might also try to get over your insecurities. There is no need to confirm a small change in hood position on a message board. If you are a dork, it won't be the hood position that tips people off.|| |