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New to road biking and looking for a new/used bike(10 posts)

New to road biking and looking for a new/used biketyrius
Jan 15, 2002 3:54 PM
I am just getting ready to start my first year as a triathlete and find myself in need of a pair of wheels (actually I am in need of the whole bike). I am 5'7" with a 30" inseam. I've been on a few types of bikes, namely LeMond, Trek, and Cannondale. I've found that I like both the LeMond and the Treks but I am really not that picky. Does anyone have any suggestions on where I should be looking to find an entry level bike at a reasonable price?

Thanks in advance
Two words: Buy UsedKerry Irons
Jan 15, 2002 4:23 PM
Your money will go much, much farther with a used bike at the "entry level" point. Since you are planning on racing, this suggests a higher quality bike than a "just starting out" rider would want/need. Regardless of the price, you will get so much more for your money buying a used bike that you shouldn't even consider a new one unless you plan to dump significant $$ (certainly over $1K and possibly higher). The other key issue is fit - make sure that any bike fits you. You want to look at one of these fit calculators:
http://www.bsn.com/cycling/ergobike.html
http://www.coloradocyclist.com/BikeFit/index.cfm
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harart-frames.html
http://www.electriciti.com/~bikelane/sizing.html
http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/frameinfo/Frame_Sizing.htm
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm

For adjusting the fit of the bike, there are roughly five starting points:

1. Seat height (top of saddle to center of pedal axle) at 108-110% of inseam.
2. Saddle parallel to ground.
3. Saddle fore/aft adjusted so that a plumb bob from the bony protrusion just below the kneecap passes through the pedal axle when the cranks are horizontal. This is known as KOPS (Knee Over Pedal Spindle)
4. Front hub axle obscured by the handlebars when riding in your "regular" position (drops, hoods, or tops).
5. Top of handlebars 1 to 4.5+ inches below the top of the saddle depending on your flexibility and size.

Again these are all starting points for "average" proportioned people, and many folks like to move away from these starting points as they learn what makes them more comfortable, powerful, or efficient. You want to get the fit of the frame as close as you can, then do minor adjustments with the stem, seat post, saddle position, etc.
Five words: What he said, sort ofElefantino
Jan 15, 2002 6:28 PM
Find a good used bike and use it for a season. Then your horizons (and perhaps your wallet) will open up as you progress in the sport.

One thing to add: You'll be approaching the $1K level if you want a good used racing machine. eBay is a good place to start comparison shopping.

One more thing: Tradition says you buy for the frame first and everything else comes after, but because this is your first bike and the subtle differences between framesets and materials will be lost on you, I'd concentrate on the everything else. Look for a bike that has been used lightly and with a good component group and a good wheelset.

FWIW, always the iconoclast
Mike
Five words: What he said, sort ofweiwentg
Jan 15, 2002 8:21 PM
where the hell were you guys when I was shopping for a bike... in the store. argh.
not that i begrudge the LBS...weiwentg
Jan 15, 2002 8:22 PM
but I'm a student on a student's budget. have to be a stingy bastard...
link to "bikelane" no longer good (nm)mja
Jan 16, 2002 4:31 AM
angzn
build your own!RaiderMike
Jan 16, 2002 9:39 AM
I built my own, after looking at the Trek 2200 that retails for about $1600, and has a 105/ultegra mix group I thought I could build a Ultegra bike for less. I bought a GT ZR2.0 frame/fork/headset for $295 and started shopping around for parts. At first I planned to go full ultegra with D/A shifters and 105 brake calipers, but after I had the D/A shifters I sent them back and bought the Ultegra 6510's instead. I also went with a Coda Crankset that I picked up for $35 new. In the End I ended up with a full ultegra bike with exception of the brake calipers, and crank. I added Shimano R-535 wheels, TTT forma SL bars, Ritchey pro stem, American classic seatpost, Cinelli tape, and used a set of shimano mountain pedals, and a SDG bel air saddle that I had laying around. Grand total was $860, and I was able to pick and choose parts
good work (nm)Nessism
Jan 16, 2002 1:33 PM
nm
Where?Jaybo
Jan 17, 2002 12:51 AM
Where did you find the Coda crank for $35? That sounds great. Thanks.
Where?RaiderMike
Jan 17, 2002 7:34 PM
I bought mine from the LBS, but I have noticed some on EBAY that were a little more @ $50 I think they were Splined Cannondale EX Roadbike cranks. It seems like a decent crank, and I really like the black color.