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Message for Kristin and the whole board(15 posts)

Message for Kristin and the whole boardnothatgullible
Jan 14, 2002 11:16 PM
First of all I am not neurotic or strange. I am a very normal person, just like everybody else.

Second, Kristin, If you feel I have offended you in any way I want to apologize to you in front of the whole board.

I have indeed followed some of your dillemas, especially the ITBS one because I suffer from the same problem.

Now for the good stuff. I got ITBS in 1988 or so and quit cycling. Sold my bike,shoes,helmet,turbo trainer,everything. I could not shake that injury off. I started road cycling in about '84.

In about 96 I started cycling again. I just wanted to beat my all time best of 78 miles in one ride, so I bought a Trek OCLV and started training for a century. I finished the century and started to ride more. I rode with different groups, started racing and finished more centuries. But my left knee started hurting under the kneecap.

In 99 I raced some, finished another century, finished and came 7th in the half ironman in Clermont,Florida(as part of a relay team) and completed the six gap century in Dahlonega,Georgia. After that I went to see the orthopedist and was diagnosed with a small case of chondromalacia on the left knee.

In 2000 I spent the year in PT. No racing, no structured riding. At the most 1 hour at a stretch. At the end of the year spent over 2K on a mountain bike I built myself. I figured things couldn't get worse and indeed I was getting better but started training too hard. Big mistake.

By the beginning of 2001 ITBS had set in and again I couldn't shake it off. I am still battling it. At the most I rode a half an hour in 2001 in a single stretch. Again no riding for me last year. I have tried everything and researched everything.

The last thing I tried was massage therapy. My massage therapist has Hunter Kemper(or whatever his name is, the Olympic triathlete) as a client. She is good. Trust me I have tried everything. You wouldn't believe.

I know sometimes I come on strong when I think I'm right and I have been accussed of being a know-it-all. Don't mean to make your life harder or discourage you. I know my posts sometimes are not the friendliest and since some of them were directed at you I want to apologize to you.

Now, you have the same injury I have and we are both looking for solutions. In the best gesture of goodwill, I want to give you my e-mail so that I can tell you what I have done to try and control this problem and what I have found out. It is I know I have made you mad and believe me, I understand.

Why write this? Well today I was sitting around and I'm thinking about this injury and how it affects me and how you have it too. Then I think the way I approached you and how wrong it was. Here you are trying to get over an injury that I also have and instead of being friendly and try to take the opportunity to discuss and maybe overcome a mutual problem, I come out lashing out at you. For that, I'm sorry.

If you would be so kind and e-mail me to talk about this thing, I would really appreciate it. I truly believe I have a lot to share that you would be interested in. The reason for e-mailing is that it would take a LOT of space to explain all the things I have tried and the ins and outs of this injury.

With my best intentions and regards,

Who's Kristen? Manny, I don't have an adequate attention spanBarnyard
Jan 15, 2002 5:51 AM
for that long of a post.
kristin may just be an incurable attention seekerthen again...
Jan 15, 2002 7:29 AM
one never knows about that opposite sex that we so dearly love, and will never figure out...

Kristin who by the way?
Your beginning to sound like a stalkernm
Jan 15, 2002 9:20 AM
Give it a rest and stop being so obsessed about this.
agreed - nmMJ
Jan 15, 2002 9:27 AM
This was just a reply to a board membernothatgullible
Jan 15, 2002 10:22 AM
Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think two posts in a one week span is excessive or stalker material. Ok, three with this one.

I was expecting a different reaction from the forum members. Of course these are just a few of them.

I know my post from the other day wasn't helpful so I was just trying to make ammends.

Just take it for what it is. I'm just offering to help, and like any other offer it can be accepted or denied. Nothing more, nothing less.

In case somebody really wanted to know, Kristin is a board member that has ITBS, a knee injury, just like I do. I got mad at the fact that she didn't seem to be taking my advice which I thought was pretty sound and wrote a post letting her know.

It probably wasn't the smartest thing since I made it sound like a personal vendeta.

Of course most people in this and other forums only know each other from what they write so maybe I shot my own foot on this one. Which is fine. Anybody out there ever made a mistake?
Yes, I for one have made many mistakes.......Len J
Jan 15, 2002 10:36 AM
and I for one, am willing to take you at face value & believe that you are sincere. It takes a big person to admit a mistake publicly, Thanks for caring enough to do that.

As to those that judge you, They only have power if you let them

but you said "message to the whole board"then again...
Jan 15, 2002 11:16 AM
So if your message intended to elicit only a response, or invoke thoughtful consideration in only Kristin, why'djya invite "us" all into your little world with this first message?

Remember, as I see it, if Kristin simply took your good advice, and didn't capitulate between whether she should or shouldn't do something, and didn't "repost" the same stuff time and time again, she wouldn't get 1147 "views" to her posts, get it!?

She's in hog heaven (no reference to her looks intended, she may be a real hottie) with all this ATTENTION. Hey, I'm happily guilty of lavishing attention on certain members of the female sex, it's just more fun when they're not manipulating us for it!

My opionions only, does not reflect the views of this station... etc., etc., etc.
but you said "message to the whole board"nothatgullible
Jan 15, 2002 12:32 PM
The only reason I included the board is that since I guess most of everybody read my first post, I wanted to apologize to her in front of the whole board.

And yes dzrider it can certainly drive you crazy not to be working out. Cycling was a big part for me and with all this down time, I can't use it anymore for stress relief. Nothing better than a good ride after a bad day at work.

And Len I appreciate the kind words.
Jan 15, 2002 1:45 PM
I have a suggestion. When you post, generalize a bit, rather than aim it at a particular person. More people might be interested, and it avoids you appearing to be unkind or unthougtful.

agreed also.... funny thing isCT1
Jan 15, 2002 5:02 PM
I read the original post this morning but didn't have time to reply. I came back on to post "you sound like a stalker" ..... when someone already beat me to it.

Original poster: Dude you sound WAY scary! No wonder Kristin hasn't been around much. Gheeesh.......

Hey CT1nothatgullible
Jan 15, 2002 6:41 PM
Not scary at all. I just wrote it in a way that just sounded too aggresive I guess. Sometimes you try to say something but it just sounds wrong.

No stalker here.

By the way I have followed and enjoyed the top tube and slack seat tube angle discussions. I finally grasped it on the last thread: If you want to keep your same seat position and go with a bike with a slack ST angle then yes, it will be effectively shorter even if it's length is the same as your present bike. But if you are like me and want to sit farther back than the ST angle on your current bike allows then you could use a bike with the same TT length as your old one. Did I get that right?

I believe you are an engineer, am I correct?

Also when dealing with somebody in the forum, don't start calling him names. Figure out what they are trying to say and try and treat them the best you can. And yes this applies to me too. I have learned my lesson. Name calling... try to stay away from that.
Hey CT1CT1
Jan 15, 2002 10:03 PM
I finally grasped it on the last thread: If you want to keep your same seat position and go with a bike with a slack ST angle then yes, it will be effectively shorter even if it's length is the same as your present bike. But if you are like me and want to sit farther back than the ST angle on your current bike allows then you could use a bike with the same TT length as your old one. Did I get that right?

Hmmmm...... Although I have to admit I'm a little confused by your comments, I suspect you understand the issue. This illustrates one of my previous comments that it's nearly impossible to discuss "highly" technical issues on the web. Everyone has different contexts and most people don't articulate their ideas in such a manner that others can understand what they're trying to explain. The drawing (although flawed) was good way of "explaining" this issue.

This TT issue reminds me of a VERY long and tedious discussion on the MTB board regarding gas shocks. A fairly simple freshman physics problem just couldn't be accepted. Or at least some folks just couldn't "get it". I tried and tried but to no avail. I don't try much any more.

I'm an EE with a fair bit of ME background. I suppose I come across a bit pompus at times. It probably comes from my old age.... ;)

ride on and keep it technical..... all the touchy feely stuff is bad juju.
Bipolar much? nmPack Meat
Jan 15, 2002 10:20 AM
Not being able to work out makes me nuts, too. nmdzrider
Jan 15, 2002 11:33 AM