Jan 14, 2002 10:43 AM
|After finally developing the film in a disposable camera, I scanned this picture of Gary Klein and the new Q-pro Carbon he "just grabbed from the rack at the factory". This was taken at a break in the ride at the Kemah Boardwalk south of Houston, on Galveston Bay.
It isn't obvious at first, but check out the nose-down seat angle. Ouch! I decided to be polite and not suggest he try a larger sized jersey!
|Do they pay him to wear that jersey?||Elefantino|
Jan 14, 2002 10:54 AM
|If not, he's just another poser!|
|He'd be better off||Dave Thomas|
Jan 14, 2002 11:00 AM
|Losing a few pounds rather than riding that trick-light bike.|
|now I know where...||gtx|
Jan 14, 2002 11:01 AM
|that 74 degree STA comes from. And it looks like he has the seat fairly far forward on a no-setback post (not to mention that seat angle like you mentioned--yow). Looks like Gary likes a fairly forward seat position.|
|He is also a gear masher||Tig|
Jan 14, 2002 11:06 AM
|We'd be at around 20 MPH and he'd be in the 53 chainring and maybe a 16 or 17 cog.|
|re: Gary Klein||DINOSAUR|
Jan 14, 2002 11:40 AM
|Gary Klein is noted for being a bit of an eccentric. Also kind of a hands on guy with his company. I sent an email to the Klein website last August and it was answered by Gary Klein himself. Sort of a nice touch in this big world of ours. I wish he had a Q-Pro Carbon he could throw at me..|
|re: Gary Klein||bike_junkie|
Jan 14, 2002 12:32 PM
|Looks like he prefers Campy, eh? Gawd those hoods are tilted high enough! |
If you didn't know he was Klein, you'd think he was just another middle-aged guy with an expensive bike and a gut.
|re: Gary Klein's gut||KEN2|
Jan 14, 2002 5:55 PM
|What gut? Maybe just because I'm middle-aged too (and you know how your sight goes with age...), but I see the suggestion of a pretty good sixpack and a swimmer's chest--and no trace of any gut. Oh, so he doesn't have the wimpy roadie upper body of a Greg Lemond...sorry.|
|This tells more about you than him!||Krill|
Jan 14, 2002 1:08 PM
|Let me see if I have this straight. You are on a group ride in which Gary Klein is a participant. You are no doubt happy and excited to meet an icon of the sport. He graciously poses for you to take his picture and then you post the picture on an internet forum and start SLAMMING HIM!?
You are pathetic. Who cares if Gary doesn't ride as much as he used to or if he no longer fits your ideal of a cyclist. Gary Klein is a brilliant innovator who has given more to the sport of cycling than your sophmoric little self could ever dream of.
|We can't all train as much as we used to (nm)||Fed Up|
Jan 14, 2002 1:29 PM
|The tone is a little harsh, but . . .||morrison|
Jan 14, 2002 1:38 PM
|I have to agree in spirit. What a privilege it would be to spend time with someone who obviously knows so much about, and has contributed so much to, cycling. Taking a picture, assuming that's really what you did, posting it, and then bashing the guy implies a certain lack of class. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but it is how it came across.
FYI: When I see someone who has a few extra pounds on a bike, and I am sure that it's not my own reflection, I think "good for her/him."
|dude chill out... It was just a bit of humor. nm||runt|
Jan 15, 2002 2:59 AM
|Actually, your reaction tells plenty about you||Tig|
Jan 15, 2002 11:13 AM
|Here's the quote from my post that you think is bashing. Go ahead and read it again. "It isn't obvious at first, but check out the nose-down seat angle. Ouch! I decided to be polite and not suggest he try a larger sized jersey!"
For those lucky enough to have been born with something called a sense of humor, it wasn't a bashing of a brilliant innovator. Just a humorous remark said in good spirit, NOT in spite. YOUR reaction was malicious, which says much about you and your lack of humor. Why are you so anal?
If you read my past post after riding with Gary, you'd know that I hold him in the highest respect. He is a fun, straightforward, intelligent person who enjoyed joking around. Having come away from a few hours with him, I felt comfortable enough to fire a joke at his expense. The bottom line here that you don't know is, anything I say behind someone's back, I would say to their face. That's just the way I am, and have always been. At no time did I compare him to some image of my idea cyclist. That was just your misguided interpretation.
So, by taking what was said totally out of context, then calling me "pathetic" and "sophomoric little self" due to your limited recognition combined with an obvious self image problem, you have made yourself a bumbling fool for all to see. Being a fool isn't so bad, but calling attention to it and removing all doubt is!
Oh, and when did I ever claim to dream of or give anything great to the sport of cycling? Please don't put words in my mouth. I do admit to helping the sport by trying to improve driver's perceptions of cyclists by advocating good road manners and responsibility. I encourage other riders and help when needed. You are attacking me, yet you know absolutely nothing of what I do or who I really am. Like I said, your reaction tells plenty about you.
Jan 15, 2002 5:38 PM
|Was there one positive remark in your message about Gary? No. You say nothing about what you thought of him as as person, nothing about respect, only petulent little criticisms seemingly designed to draw like responses from other small minded people. Now I ask you, what kind of response did you THINK your posting would gather? Look at this thread and tell me if you think Gary would enjoy reading it? If your integrity is of such a high order, why don't you forward your note to him, you know, something along the lines of "Hey Gary, here's that picture I took of you at the ride. You should check that seat angle and by the way, try wearing a larger jersey in the future." How do you think he would interpret that?
You are right, I know nothing of you, only how you present yourself here. I stand by my original opinion and statements.
|Horizontal stripes are so slimming...NOT. nm||Brooks|
Jan 14, 2002 1:22 PM