|Cost of bottled water-Monday rant!!!||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 7:48 AM
|We ride lots, usually 100-130 miles on Saturday and 50-100 miles on Sunday. Can't carry enough water to complete our rides even this time of year. Have you noticed the advent of designer bottled water has killed water fountains everywhere?
And the cost of bottled water?!?!?!
The Safeway just down the road has soda machines out front. Safeway "Select" 12 oz. sodas $0.25 each, Safeway "Select" bottled water 16 oz. $0.50 each. Out in the country it is much worse but everywhere sodas cost less than water!!!
Best or worst of all we can usually find gallons of water for less than the price of 16 or even 8 oz. bottles. Still the cost of a gallon of water can be anywhere from $0.64 to $2.25. 2 liter bottles of soda are about the same as a gallon of water. Several somebodies are making a killing on water, selling what used to be available for free.
Can't wait for warmer weather so parks will turn their pipes back on.
End of rant.
|Ah what the hell ...||pmf1|
Jan 14, 2002 7:51 AM
|So you spend a few bucks on water while out riding all those miles. Still pretty cheap entertainment. At least its warm enough to ride where you are.|
|Warm, I think not.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 11:24 AM
|I agree that a few bucks for water is not a whole lot to spend compared to the cost of our bikes and equipment (including all the clothing that keeps us comfortable this time of year). Still, if you aren't careful you can really get ripped off for something as basic as water.
From cold (the C&O Canal was still iced over yesterday) but not snowy DC.
|Warm, I think not.||pmf1|
Jan 14, 2002 11:47 AM
|I live in DC too. Did you get out and enjoy that wind yesterday? I couldn't do it. |
Its been a pretty decent winter here so far. I keep wondering if we'll get away with no snow or bad weather. Another 8 weeks and we'll be pretty much in the clear.
|Rode 75 fun filled miles yesterday.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 12:54 PM
|Oh was it windy! We snuck around a lot of it by riding out the C&O Towpath (the path was pretty soft though) to Violettes Lock then up the backroads to Schaffer farms. The hills blocked the wind a lot-when the wind hit-Oof.....
Coming back was mostly tailwinds.
Miss M says that when the snows finally hit it will be a big one. Coming from Hawaii and SoCal I take it one day at a time.
|I hope she's wrong||pmf1|
Jan 14, 2002 1:22 PM
|There have been years here w/o any snow. Not too many though. |
I came here from Minnesota. Even after 10 years of living here, I still marvel at the mild winters.
|re: Cost of bottled water-Monday rant!!!||morey|
Jan 14, 2002 8:22 AM
|Water is ridiculously high. I never thought we would have to pay for water. The City of Temple Terrace is thinking of bottling their water for sale as a revenue source. I am the Superintendent of Public Works for Temple Terrace, and it even shocks me that this is being though of as a revenue source.|
|water costs more than gas....go figure||RaiderMike|
Jan 14, 2002 9:05 AM
|Over the Summer Gas prices where I live rose to $2.10 a gallon. The whole community was outraged, but bottled water currently sells for about $1.00 a liter, which works out to almost $4.00 a gallon. Why does water cost more than gas?|
|Exactly, there is one born every minute! nm||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 11:25 AM
|have you ever thought ....||naff geezer|
Jan 14, 2002 12:08 PM
|that where most of the worlds petroleum products are produced water is more important to the region than "gas".|
|re: Cost of bottled water-Monday rant!!!||claud|
Jan 14, 2002 9:13 AM
|I would guess the costs of vandalism and potential for tainting the water is more likely the reason for fewer water fountains. What gets me is the pansies that must have bottled water instead of tap!|
|It all depends on where you live...||WetFish|
Jan 14, 2002 9:19 AM
|Some places the water is sweet nectar (your house maybe?) Other places it tastes like sweat from your gym socks.|
|like wine, you will be handed a menu for water in restaurants||naff geezer|
Jan 14, 2002 9:32 AM
|it will happen sooner than you think.
me, ill stick with the chateau de Tap till i die.
it will happen sooner than i think.
|Drink "Upstream" Brand||grzy|
Jan 14, 2002 9:43 AM
|How do you know that a moose hasn't pee'd in your bottled water? There are no standards. |
Stop at a gas station or any fast food place to refill your water - for FREE!
Also, remember that Evian is "naive" spelled backwards.
|had an old roomate who used to work for evian||naff geezer|
Jan 14, 2002 10:00 AM
|and by his own admission "bottled at the source" means nothing. there is simply not enough "source" to meet the demands for its worldwide production.
they purchase water from other sources and bottle it "at the source".
and also 80% of olive oil from italy is from spain. mixed with 20% italian olive oil that is bottled in italy. ask any spainard and they will grudgingly admit that their olive oil gets the plaudits via other countries.
think about what you pay for.
|curious...is spanish olive oil bad? or just not as famous? (nm)||Dave Thomas|
Jan 14, 2002 11:02 AM
|Dave? I thought you left us!||recroom|
Jan 14, 2002 11:10 AM
|Will Wendy's soon feature olive oil with their fries, perhaps?
|Just stepped out for more grease! nm||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 11:30 AM
Jan 14, 2002 12:01 PM
|from region and producer etc etc and also what you like (ie your palate) but
in general their first press extra virgin would blow away anything that the french, italians, or greeks could muster. its just that traditionally people have the misnomer of the finest olive oils comming from italy. i think there is a book on the subject called "the olive wars" that goes into greater detail the raw deal the spanish have gotten themselves into.
basically, they were happy with the security offered by the italian manufacturers/producers (fixed prices - guaranteed orders) and then realised that they could sell it themselves to the rest of the world but now everyone knows of mainly italy as The place of olive oil and is impossible to change this perceived notion. they also have pressure from the italians as if they try to address this issue they risk cutting off the hand that feeds them. they would be left with a lot of olive oil that everyone might think is inferior and no steady export euros$'s.
all this i learned at an olive press in provence (from a frenchman - no bias) over many cognacs. just talking about it makes me feel alive again. wish i was there
|Amazing where a thread can lead, isn't it! nm||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 12:56 PM
|I just e-mailed your reply to my . . .||morrison|
Jan 14, 2002 1:44 PM
|Greek father-in-law. As soon as he finds his bifocals, his head is going to explode! :-)|
|Figures "Bottled at the tap"!||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 11:28 AM
|Doesn't Coke bottle New York city water and call it "Discany" or something fancy and charge a premium for it?|
|Flaunt fashion - get a hydro pack...||PdxMark|
Jan 14, 2002 12:19 PM
|You'll drink more, be better hydrated, not run out, not have mix shopping with riding, not get gouged...
but then, most of us roadies hate hydro packs... being a slave to fashion is still slavery, I guess... happy roads
|Got several, don't like 'em.||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 12:47 PM
|Love Camelbacks in the dirt. On the road we ride all day, just don't like having something on my back that long. However when the temps are in the low 20's or below they are about the only option worn under an outer layer or 2.|
Jan 14, 2002 1:25 PM
|I have located garden hose faucets all along my routes, and fill from there most of the time. The businesses don't seem to mind. If I buy water, I almost always just buy the cheap one gallon milk jugs.
I guess with bottled water, what you are paying for is transportation and packaging. I imagine it costs more to transport and store water in 1 liter containers than it does gasoline in 5,000 gallon containers. Still, it's pretty silly to pay it. If people didn't buy it, then they wouldn't sell it, though, It must be an indication of how wealthy we are as a society.
|Make sure it's potable||morrison|
Jan 14, 2002 1:32 PM
|I frequently do the same thing. CAUTION: Lots of golf courses, cemetaries, parks, etc., have grey water hook ups for irrigation. (That means not quite clean recycled water in plain English.) If you are using a faucet in an area that's heavily irrigated, it's worth it to inquire.
FYI . . . a great source of free cold water: Car dealerships! Although, they do look at you strangely when you wheel your ride into the waiting room for a pull of the water cooler!
|Mostly turned off for the winter around here, unlike F-no!||MB1|
Jan 14, 2002 4:19 PM
|In the summer it is not as much of a problem. We have noticed that more and more places are replacing their waterfountains with vending machines, even parks and schools that used to be reliable sources of water.|
|re: Cost of bottled water-Monday rant!!!||firstrax|
Jan 14, 2002 1:37 PM
|I always wondered why water costs more than water and sugar (coke). By the way, the kennedy's are in the bottled water business now so it must be profitable.|
|Whoda thunk.....||Lone Gunman|
Jan 14, 2002 1:45 PM
|that a gallon of gas would be cheaper than a gallon of water?|
|duh....the saudi royal family? nm||naff geezer|
Jan 14, 2002 4:04 PM
|Distilled H2o is the safest||coonass|
Jan 14, 2002 6:08 PM
|As everyone has already disclosed: bottled water from the 'source' is not the smart way to go....Distilled water HAS to be distilled per FDA/FTC....don't worry about the absence of minerals, etc. if you take daily supplements. I live in a small town where the local tap water EATS up COPPER pipes..(they say it 'complies with the EPA regs.'.....RIGHT!!!) .needless to say, I only shower with it, and I buy distilled H2o to cook, make green-tea or put in my camelbak..(59¢/gal. @ Walmart)|| |