|More expensive cables worth it?||szybki|
Jan 10, 2002 11:46 AM
|I need to replace the cables on my Ultegra\DA equipped road bike. I see the Avid, Ride-On, Le Tour, Delta, etc. in the catalogues and websites more than the "standard" Shimano cables. Are these aftermarket cables really better or should I go with DA cables? Appreciate any help. BTW, I live in South Texas and ride pretty much year round (if this is a factor in the cable decision).|
|re: More expensive cables worth it?||gtx|
Jan 10, 2002 12:09 PM
|I having been use Gortex (Ride-on) cable for the rear der of my mtb for several years and think they're fantastic--keeps the shifting totally smooth through the worst mud/wet (and my mtb has downtube cable routing). I looked at those Avid cables and they didn't seem nearly as good--I know nothing about the others you mention. I know some people find setting up the Gortex cables to be difficult, but I didn't have a problem. I don't think these cables are really necessary for the front der and in general not necessary for road bikes unless you really do ride in a lot of crud. And with Shimano and slotted cable stops, lubing your standard cables is a snap! So I'd say stick with the DA cables unless you ride in a lot of crud, have had problems with conventional cables in the past and don't mind the extra effort of setup. My $.02.|
|Not on a road bike||mr_spin|
Jan 10, 2002 12:13 PM
|Unless you ride in really dirty conditions, I don't think you'll gain much. Keeping your drivetrain clean and lubed, and especially and making sure your points are lubed is all you really need.
On a mountain bike, sealed teflon coated cables are fantastic, even if they are expensive. It's worth the money there. You can save money by only doing the shifter cables, not the brakes.
|No, definitely not||pmf1|
Jan 10, 2002 12:24 PM
|I've tried Ride-On. They work great for about 6 months and then start getting dirt in them. In the end, shifting gets worse and you have to change them. They're really expensive too. Maybe worth it on a mtn bike, but not a road bike. Stick with the standard Shimano cables.|
|Agree: Feel it on my MB, but not on the road||cory|
Jan 10, 2002 12:27 PM
|They work great, but as long as you're not riding through slop, I'd say they're not a big deal on a road bike that sees semi-regular maintenance. RideOns did clean up the rear shifting on my muddy, casually maintained mountain bike, though.|
|re: More expensive cables worth it?||SnowBlind|
Jan 10, 2002 2:35 PM
|Just replace them with campy Cables! ;)
Seriously, if they don't have problems, don't screw with them.
I discovered I had been making a rookie mistake in how I shifting when the bike was on the repair stand: I would shift 3 or 4 notches before spinning the crank. BAD, very BAD, as it streaches the cables big time.
How south are you? Anywhere near the ocean would justify using non metallic cables.
Does Shimano really make different cables for the different groups? How sad =(
|I live by Gore cables||spookyload|
Jan 10, 2002 5:30 PM
|People who have had problems with grime inside their system, obviously had them set up wron. It is a seal system, and when set up are invulnerable to water. I have had a set on my mountain bike for two years, and the brakes feel just as crisp as a new cable. It is very time consuming to set them up properly, but if you use a new razor blade, and follow the instructions, it works great. I have seen several people who had problems with their gunking up, and it is always due to hasty, improper installation. I use them on my road bike for the ability to ride in rain. The other benefit of the cables is the quality of the actual cable themselves. They are a very heavy guage cable that does not stretch. You don't have to retune your drivetrain after the first couple rides because the cables stretched. Another option is a cable from France called Transfil Flying Snakes. I got a set from www.Totalcycling.com for $30.00. They are exact copies of the gore cable, but lighter. I haven't installed them yet, but just from looking, it is the same setup.|
|I died by Gore cables.||grzy|
Jan 10, 2002 5:40 PM
|I too was a huge fan of the Gore Ride-On cable system. That is until the coating started coming off of the cable inside the housing after about 2 years and I realized that I can't buy just the cable. When one considers the cost of the Gore system and compares it to normal cables you realize that you can replace your cables and housing many times over for the price of a single Gore system and you'll still have money left over. the gauge of their cable is exactly the same as everyone elses and if it were larger than standard your shifting system performance would suffer. They only appear thicker due to the coating.|
|I died by Gore cables.||gtx|
Jan 10, 2002 7:06 PM
|if you buy one set and just use it for the rear der and you set it up right it will last a good long time.|
|Cambria sells the replacement cables now||spookyload|
Jan 10, 2002 11:18 PM
|You get a cable and the lining for $15. I also found a shop in Maine that sells the whole set for $30. You really have to look to find anyone who carries them anymore. I put a rollamajig on my Mtn bike rear deraileur, and the cable was too short, so I bought the replacement cable, and kept the old rear for a replacement for the front|
|Airborne teflon coated cables and housings...||Lone Gunman|
Jan 10, 2002 6:12 PM
|$20 earlier this year on Ultgra group, slick shifting.|
Jan 10, 2002 6:19 PM
|...for the teflon coating to start peeling off and clog up your housing. |
Found that not much really compares to spending just a couple bucks on some quality stainless steel cable that's been rolled (i.e. QBP) and replacing the housing every now and then. I've tried all of the major cable systems and see them as modern day snake oil. They aren't 100% sealed, the coatings don't stay on, and you can't buy the various components seperately. With a little luck you'll get a couple years out of your $40 system then have to pony up again.
|I think you really||cyclopathic|
Jan 10, 2002 7:36 PM
|hate that teflon coating, don't you?
Not that I disagree with your assessment ;)
I found that regular Shimano cables will run practically forever if use sealed cable housing ends (the same kind as Shim RD with additional long rubber piece) and pack housing with grease. I used to replace lower FD loop every 200mi on my Jekyll now after I capped it on both sides I haven’t touched it in last 2000mi. Happy trails bro