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hubscollinsc
Jan 9, 2002 12:36 AM
if i were to build (have built for me) a pair of open pros with revolution spokes (most likely 28 2x front and 32 3x rear) with ideals of not only incredible lightness but also of unsurpassed durability, what hubs should i choose?

hugi 240's seem to be just about the lightest thing going, but will they last.

chris kings seem highly reccomended for strength and almost as light as the hugis, but will the noise (which i havent ever heard) drive me mad?

or if you have a better idea of what i can do with a pair of open pros and a 160lb rider, please let me know.

thanks,
chad
alsocollinsc
Jan 9, 2002 12:41 AM
why is it that at colorado cyclist, the cost of a built set of wheels with ck hubs is much more than that built with hugis?

as standalone hubsets they are very close in price range.
re: hubsCharlie - Empire Cycle Craft
Jan 9, 2002 1:38 AM
Are these everyday wheels, or special event only? If they are everyday wheels and you are concerned about durability I would go with 14/15g spokes instead of the Revolutions. As far as the hubs are concerned I really like the Hugi's but the rear Chris king hub will allow for shorter spokes and therefore more durability. So on that note I would say Hugi's with Rev spokes if they are special event wheels and Kings with 14/15g spoke if they are everyday wheels. Hope this helps.

Charlie Weisel
www.empirebicycles.com
re: hubsfuzzybunnies
Jan 9, 2002 8:33 AM
Might want to also check out tune hubs which are now pretty much the lightest out there. Kings are great for durability but they do require a break in period, slow down if you coast, and your friends might not like them when you're riding together. That said mine have been maitnence free. Russ
RetroEric
Jan 9, 2002 11:00 AM
I am retro on this subject, but why not build them with Dura-Ace or Record hubs? If you are using Shimano, the 7700 Dura-Ace hubs are reasonably and completely user serviceable. The sealed hubs like Hugi and Chris King are nice, but very expensive. I had a set of Hugi hubs a few years back and I was not that impressed by them. The King design seems better and if you ever need to service them or get parts it will be easier with King. Remember, the weight savings on the hubset is not as siginificant as the spokes/rim because the hub shell rotates very close the axle.

If these are to be special event wheels (ie. racing) why not use D/A (or Record) hubs, Revolution spokes, 28 hole in the front, 32 in the rear and consider using a lighter rim like the Velocity Aerohead.
AmClassic/Shook hubsohio
Jan 9, 2002 1:36 PM
I was skeptical at first, but mountain bikers have been using them and reporting great things. I'm planning on building up a MTB set of my own (general trail use, not just racing) with the disc version. And now that Shook bought AmClassic there's no wierd issues with differing parts or warranty. They're also designed for even spoke tension in the rear, which looks scary but apparently builds up strong.

Also, you can get CK wheels built by CK, for not much more than just the cost of the hubs, but you have to go through an LBS (which is a good thing).

If you really want the best combo of strong and light, call Dave at Speed Dream wheels. He apparently does crazy things with spoke patterns and gauges, and they come out bombproof even with light spokes and rims. He charges a little more than other builders, but you get what you pay for. I'm considering him for the wheelset mentioned above.
hmmmgtx
Jan 9, 2002 6:33 PM
I think CK is only doing built mtb wheels at the moment. Also, their rear hub noise is annoying. I'd go with DA or Campy hubs, 14/15 spokes, brass nips and the rim of your choice. Boring, but it works.
I always say the same thing...Leisure
Jan 11, 2002 3:02 AM
I like Hugis, CK, Phil Wood, and Campy hubs. I have CK on my mtb and love them. I recently had the rear hub serviced, and initially the buzz was muted a decent amount, presumably by having more grease in the hub body. More recently it has gotten louder again. On my mtb I love the buzz, but on a road bike I also think it might be too much. That's why I'd opt for the Hugis if I could build my roadbike any way I wanted. They are probably mildly underbuilt for mountainbiking, but for roadbiking I think they'd be great, even if not quite as long-lasting between maintainance as CK. My LBS's manager has been riding and racing crits this last season on Hugis and is way happy with them. My road bike on the other hand has Campy Daytona hubs and they are badass for the money. They'll probably hold up comparably to the Hugis and are still respectably light, maybe 120g or so heavier for the set. Not bad for half the price. And then Phil Wood, not really light but bombproof for decades. I haven't had any strong reason to need that kind of reliability yet, but I think the time will come eventually. I think it's a question of needing them for road, mountain, or both. I love hubs. Ever seen Hadley's Downhill hubs? Sweetness.