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Speedplay help please...(11 posts)

Speedplay help please...5ive
Jan 4, 2002 7:03 AM
I just purchased a set of X1's and before I install them, I want to ask few questions:

1. The bearings do not feel nearly as smooth as the ones on my LOOK's. Is this normal? If I hold the spindle and try to spin the round pedal body, there's absolutely no free-spinning.

2. I know it's recommended to clean and lube the cleats well, but am I supposed to lube the pedals as well?

3. When installing the cleats on my Sidi shoes, I'm guessing I need to remove the LOOK Adapter plates before install the shims. Is this correct?

Thanx in advance for your help.
re: Speedplay help please...JimP
Jan 4, 2002 7:26 AM
1. The seals on the bearings are still tight which creates a little drag on the pedal. Also, the pedal body has practically no mass to spin which the old LOOK has.
2. I lube the pedal body in the groove with a waxlube along with the cleats.
3. Yes, and when you do tighten the new cleats, don't overdo it and make sure the screws line up so you don't cross thread and strip them.

Another tip is to always use the cleat cover when walking. The area behind the spring on the cleat will attract dirt and junk which can create a problem with attachment to the pedal and also will cause wear on the spring.
Speedplay lubingTig
Jan 4, 2002 7:53 AM
JimP covered everything well. I use a dry lube (WhiteLightning or Pedro's Dry Ice) for the groove, but find it isn't required as much as I thought.

One thing you may want to get some time later is the Speedy Luber grease adapter at Performance or where you bought the pedals from for $5.
Chainsaw lube fittingcoonass
Jan 4, 2002 5:36 PM
will fit your standard grease-gun and Speedplay pedals; also sells for about $3. and is available at most hardware stores (I got mine at Ace Hardware)
re: Speedplay help please...morey
Jan 4, 2002 8:00 AM
The mass is less and the bearings are new. Buy the grease adapter for the speedplay pedals and the covers for the cleats. I have lubed once in a year, sprayed my cleats with silicone once a month. Love them!
Your answers.nigel
Jan 4, 2002 8:01 AM
5ive,

First off, congrats on your purchase of possibly (arguably) the best pedals on the market. I've been using the X/2s since early this year, and haven't a single complaint; the design is so simple, it's brilliant.

To answer your queries:

1) Speedplays won't spin freely when you try it with your hands as your Looks do. They'll spin plenty easy once your shoe's engaged in them, and do so without hesitation and very smoothly. Could be a) that they use a different bearing setup than Look or b) due to their small size and even balance--as opposed to Looks being much heavier in the rear portion of the pedal.

2) I've never lubed my pedals, and haven't heard of anyone else doing this. The logic, I suppose, would be that there's nothing to lube there: no moving parts so no need for lube. I've lubed my cleats maybe three or four times since I got them, but haven't felt the need to do it more than that since entry and exit have been a-okay. I lubed them LIGHTLY with White Lightning (suggested brand, I believe, according to Speedplay) mainly because it was recommended by the manufacturer.

3) I don't believe that you'd have to remove the plate. You're speaking about the plate located in the sole of your shoe, correct? My shoes came set up with SPD-R plates, but also came with Look-compatible plates. Since Speedplays won't work with SPD-R plates, I simply cut open the shoe (very easy--the inner sole of the shoe was perforated for just such a plate change) switched plates, and duct-taped it closed: a five-minute procedure. I then attached the Speedplay Cleat Shim (Snap Shim?) to the Look plate and I've been golden ever since. Pretty easy, really. Just make sure that you heed their warnings about overtightening. The cleat itself (the four-holed section which engages with the pedal) should not be overtightened, or else the four screws can either dig into the sole of your shoe or cause the snap-shim cleat to lift itself off of the shoe sole, causing improper alignment and instability. Do what the instructions say, and you'll be fine.

Best of luck,
Nige
You never lube your pedals?ET
Jan 4, 2002 8:56 AM
Isn't that illegal? :-) Speedplay says to lube them every season (does that mean quarterly?) or else they're not covered under warranty (Q: if you lied, would they know?). So I got an injector gun and periodically remove the black thingy on the side of the pedal, attach the black Speedy luber connector thingy and inject grease until white comes out the other side of the pedal. That's what they say to do.
I said "lube," not "grease," ET. You are a silly man.nigel
Jan 4, 2002 3:09 PM
The original poster, 5ive, asked about lubing one's Speedplays along with the cleats, not about routine greasing of the innards, so I answered his question.

You are right, though, about routinely regreasing, and Speedplay certainly makes it easy enough to do.

Cheers,
Nige
Thanx to all for your help!(nm)5ive
Jan 4, 2002 8:31 AM
One more thingcrankset
Jan 4, 2002 12:10 PM
Speedplay cleats don't need and adapter with Sidi shoes. They bolt straight to the shoes. Remove the LOOK adapter plates. Read the instructions, I'm guessing you have the new snap shim system, and you'll see that they provide special shims to use with Sidi shoes and that's all you need. Remember NO adapters needed. If you have any questions, contact Speedplay. Actually this is one of the pluses of usind Spedplay cleats with Sidi shoes, you end up with a very low stack height due to not needing adapters.
re: Speedplay help please...JimP
Jan 4, 2002 6:59 PM
One thing that I forgot to mention was to use anti-seize compound like ti-prep on the threads before installing them into the crank. The titanium of the X-1s will react with the aluminum of the crank and can weld themselves together after a while.