Dec 18, 2001 10:11 AM
|I have recently been getting too many flats. Most of them are the result of a small piece of glass getting through the tire casing and puncturing the tube. I've heard that tire liners might help. Do any of you have any good/bad experiences with tire liners? Which tire liner would you recommend?
Dec 18, 2001 10:25 AM
|Used to have them when I lived in Cyprus - there were lots of nasty thorns around there that would go staight through a tyre - they solved the problem straight off.
They add a bit of weight (not a lot) but better than flats. Can't recall the make, but some cheap JapaneseChinese one.
Some guys just used sticky cloth tape in the tyres - also seemed to work pretty well, but liners were probably cheaper than buying a roll of good tape.
|Mr Tuffy rocks||dzrider|
Dec 18, 2001 11:17 AM
|I started using Mr Tuffy on commuting bikes in 1988. I've had 2 flats with him in my tires. I don't know if that brand is available as they are now on their third bike. I take them out for touring because they're heavy and stiffen the ride, but you can't beat 'em for riding in urban and industrial areas.|
Dec 18, 2001 1:56 PM
|I have a pair of self-made studded mtb tires. Picture a tire with 1/4 screws sticking out of it (300 screws actually). The heads of all those screws are on the inside of the tire. I use a standard tube and Mr Tuffy liners and rarely get flats. If I flat, it's because the liner slipped to one side and left the screws exposed. I've had them for years. I'd be tempted to call them overkill for things like glass and thorns.
Snow riding rocks!!!
Dec 18, 2001 11:37 AM
|Yes Mr. Tuffy is a good one @ 52 gr. ea. I am now trying Spin-Skins @ 14 gr. ea. which I understand will not pulverize in short order if at least 100 psi is maintained. So far no flats with either in a very thorny section of the SW. |
|Spin-Skins work great. . .||js5280|
Dec 18, 2001 12:34 PM
|Have about 2000 miles on spin skins and minimal flats despite a lot of tire cuts and punctures. They are nice and light but a little pricey. They look like wouldn't protect much, the reinforced strip seems a little thin, but it does. I have Mr. Tuffy's on My ATB, I think they cover more of the tube, but aren't as puncture resistant as the Spin skins. I'll pulled out many a thorn from them. However, you run over a lot more thorns on a trail vs. the road.|
|What about those armadillo tires? (nm)||aet|
Dec 18, 2001 1:21 PM
|What about those armadillo tires? (nm)||nee Spoke Wrench|
Dec 18, 2001 3:48 PM
|I use armadillo tires on a couple of my bikes and I can't remember any flats since I started using them. On the other hand, how can you tell if they actually saved you from getting a flat?
I've heard repeated stories about Mr. Tuffy's abraiding the inner tube where the tire liner overlaps and actually causing flat tires; but I don't have any first hand knowledge. One of the reasons I started using Armadillo tires is because I feel that if a product is properly designed to begin with you shouldn't have to buy add-on products to make it satisfactory.
|What about those armadillo tires? (nm)||Crankist|
Dec 19, 2001 6:24 AM
|No, I have never flatted with my pair of Arms. (only 600 mi. or so), but the sidewall is seperated now from the |
bead. Plus @ ~370 gr. per pair they are about 50% heavier than AP/Sp.Sk. No mas.
|"repeated stories about Mr. Tuffy's abraiding the inner tube"||Dutchy|
Dec 19, 2001 2:24 PM
|This is true. On a road bike the high pressure will cause the Mr.Tuffy to dig into the tyre
where the overlap is. If you leave the tyre on for 6 months or more it will eventually
put a deep crease in the tube that can flat. What I do is to remove the tyre at regular intervals
(usually this is when it is too wet/windy to ride) and rotate the overlap point of the Mr.Tuffy 90 degrees.
I have stopped using them for now as I am riding on Conti GP3000, these seem very good.
I have heard stories about sidewall blowouts, but I get the impression these people have
been over inflating the tyres past 120psi.
|was it somebody here that used duct tape instead? nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Dec 18, 2001 2:07 PM
Dec 18, 2001 4:23 PM
|Spin skins work great, but I find they aren't that durable - they don't tend to last that long if you ride a bunch. However they're ligh, but not cheap. They have a new lower cost model but I zero experience with them. Mr. Tuffy's weigh a friggin' ton. Ultimately you may want to revist your tire wear. Once you start getting down remaining life it's much easier to get flats. Most of the problems I see are due to this. FWIW - I also rotate my tires for more even and total wear.|| |