Dec 17, 2001 3:46 PM
|I'm a ten year plus rider with an ongoing problem. I've tried every shoe combination and foot bed combination that you can imagine and my feet still get serious hot spots and numbness. It usually starts after about 20 min. and can range from mild irritation and numbness to serious/shooting pain.
I've tried custom foot beds, extra padding, no padding, different angles, larger pedals and cleats, carbon soles.......
Anybody have any other ideas?
|re: Sore feet||UncleMoe|
Dec 17, 2001 4:57 PM
|I've become one with my foot numbness and simply accepted it. Somedays are worse than others.
Quite honestly, the best remedy I have found is to buy shoes one size bigger than I should have. It just creates a little more space to stretch out the toes, curl'em up, etc. I do lose a little power because the looser shoes allow my feet more play, but I am a recreational rider so I take the added comfort over performance.
I have tried tons of stuff to. This is the only thing that comes close to working for me.
|re: Sore feet||gtx|
Dec 17, 2001 5:07 PM
|have you tried Carnac mtb shoes with Superfeet insoles? This is by far the most comfy setup I've tried--you get the rock solid Carnac support/quality with just a bit of give (the Carnac road shoes are very stiff). A good shoe should isolate you from whatever pedal weirdness/hot spots--I use 'em with Frogs. Good luck!
|Where's the pain and soreness?||guido|
Dec 17, 2001 5:46 PM
|If you've tried different hardware and the problems keeps coming back, maybe positioning is the problem.
Are the balls of your feet over the pedal spindle? If too far forward, the pressure will be too much on the toes. The balls and tendons that connect to the heel will get stressed badly.
That's just one example of a positioning fault. You first have to get comfortable on the bike, establish an easy stress free spin as a point of reference, so that when you start pedaling hard, you can isolate the pain, and note when it occurs.
It's a matter of ergonomic function, or in your case, dysfunction, that calls for some investigative analysis. Is the pain always in the same place? Is it in one leg but not the other? Can you pedal without bringing on the pain, or does it come on no matter how easy you're going?
|Where's the pain and soreness?||comedy-tragedy|
Dec 18, 2001 3:08 PM
Sorry to take so long to get back on your question.
The numbness and pain usually starts at about the 3rd toe, moves to the outside of the foot and then spreads back to the inside. In other words from the center of the foot out in both directions.
I've moved the cleats fore and aft and side to side in 2-3mm increments and if I go all the way forward it feels like I'm standing on the very front of the ball of the foot. This is probably the most painful position. If I go further back it takes a little longer before it gets really bad but then more of the foot hurts too.
Also, when I run on my elipical trainer during the winter, good quality cross training shoes and the custom foot beds inside, I get some of the same numbness. Not a bad, but it's still there.
I've got a couple of other things I'm planning on trying when spring gets here. This thread is just an attempt to find out if there's something I may have missed.
|Where's the pain and soreness?||guido|
Dec 18, 2001 10:47 PM
|That's okay. I just visit this board once in awhile. Threads get chewed up and buried sometimes before everyone has a chance to put in their two cents.
Maybe your foot is pronated, like, duck toed or pigeon toed on the pedal, so that the pressure on the bottom of the foot is not even, laterally, side to side. Is there a local bike shop that can do Fit-Kit cleat adjustments? They could check to see if your saddle is not too high, and your feet stay flat, side to side, when you crank.
Cycling is low impact on the legs and feet, providing you learn to spin, "turn the crank in circles." It's one of the few intense workouts that can be done well into old age. I believe your problem is solvable.
|re: Sore feet||SkunkWorks|
Dec 17, 2001 10:44 PM
|Most likly it is pushing down too much with out unweighting on the upstroke. The constant pressure is what is causing your hotspots.
Since it is winter, use this time on the indoor trainer to do as much one legged pedaling as you can to try to make your square stroke into perfect circles. No one really does perfect circles, but it sounds like you have trained yourself into too much downstroke and it may take real attention and persistence to correct it. Try to do some training where you use every part of the stroke but down to help correct it.
Using a lower gear and increasing your cadence also helps.