|putting together a retro rig - advice||DaveG|
Dec 16, 2001 6:20 PM
|I've been thinking about putting together/restoring a older retro bike as a winter project. You know, steel, friction shifting, non-aero brake levers...etc. I think I might have a bit of a problem going back to toe-clips though. Any advice on where to find some bargains? Pitfalls to avoid? Places to find info on older bikes and parts?|
|re: putting together a retro rig - advice||fuzzybunnies|
Dec 16, 2001 6:28 PM
|check out http://classicrendezvous.com/main.htm and look under resources. Features lots of shops where older parts can be bought new or refurnished. -Russ|
|Nuttin' wrong with toe clips ...||Humma Hah|
Dec 16, 2001 7:12 PM
|... they let you ride in your school shoes!
Hmmm, on several occasions, I've gotten parts for my 30-year-old cruiser from a garage operation in Colorado, small, but have treated me honestly and had what I needed.
For classy older bikes, and I mean old even back to the days of wooden rims, the people who refinished the cruiser have an absolute gold mine of old bikes and parts. They seem to have virtually every part Campy ever made, for example. That would be CyclArt,
|re: putting together a retro rig - advice||look271|
Dec 16, 2001 7:16 PM
|You don't have to go back to toe clips if you don't want to. Wellgo makes an spd attatchment that you can put onto their platform pedals. Cost w/ new platforms was about $40-not a bad deal. Work ok-I have them on an old schwinn.|
|Toe clips are easy--I use 'em every day||cory|
Dec 16, 2001 9:19 PM
|If I weren't too much of a sheep to admit it, I probably prefer them to clipless for most of the riding I do. As somebody else said, they let you ride in your school shoes, which is pretty nice for commuting or a knockaround/cappuccino bike. I've been through SPDs and Looks (got two pairs of size 50 shoes for those, if anybody's interested), but toe clips are comfortable, they fit all my shoes, and when I ride the same course several times a month trying clips vs. clipless, there's no difference in the times.|
|Just as I was about to...||John-d|
Dec 17, 2001 2:46 AM
|treat myself to a set of Speedplay's a Toe-clip and strap revival arrives.
Toe-clips are so useful, only last night, wearing the shoes I was already in, I dashed to the Fish and Chip shop and back to get the supper. How convenient not to have to do the duck waddle in front of the queue.
All I can say is that when we were riding the retro bikes brand new, we rode tens of thousands of miles in toe-clips, no problem.
Well, now I am back in a state of indecision, sighhhh.
Enjoy your bike
|Toe clips are easy--I use 'em every day||guido|
Dec 17, 2001 2:32 PM
|When clipless pedals came along, alot of racers wouldn't use them, saying they weren't stiff enough, the platforms weren't big enough. So Time came out with a wider platform with the others following suit, and shoe manufacturers put those velcro straps on their product, so when you pulled up, your shoe wouldn't try to come apart.
I'm sure there's a weight penalty, but my old Campy Superleggera rat trap pedals still rotate silky smooth, provide a nice stiff platform to push down on, and will pedal in circles as well as any clipless-shoe combination. Some track riders still use toe straps to keep their feet firmly on the pedals, despite the cleats. There's nothing technically inferior to toe clips and straps, except a few grams of weight. They work with any clipless shoe that will accept a slotted cleat. I'm riding Sidi Genius IIs on mine.
|Going out of business sale at||scottfree|
Dec 17, 2001 6:17 AM
|that's about the 4th time they are 'going out of business'!||nm|
Dec 17, 2001 6:21 AM
|toe clips are cool||dzrider|
Dec 17, 2001 7:16 AM
|Both the wife and I have toe clips on our commuting bikes. They are simple and easy for any bike you plan to use for unplanned rides or rides with frequent stops.
Renaissance Cycles has lots of old stuff. Wide ranges in price.
|toe clips are cool||davidl|
Dec 17, 2001 8:38 AM
|I've got them on my commuter-bad weather, etc. bike. Harris Cyclery [Sheldon Brown's place] has lots of gear - got platform pedals there for about $40.00.
Not a thing wrong w/ clips - especially since you avoid the shoe issue.
|re: putting together a retro rig - advice||spdplayr|
Dec 17, 2001 10:49 AM
|i've got a complete 105 gruppo with a 1000 miles on it minus the headset that is 7 spd sis/friction for sale. email me if you are insterested....email@example.com and kabootie: $200 shipped.|
Dec 17, 2001 2:08 PM
|It just so happens that I have a late 1980s Austro Daimler Vent Noir, size 58cm, all chromed Reynolds 531 Professional tubing bike, that I built up semi-retro that I am selling for a song. (Somehow I have added 2+ new frames/bike to my fleet in the last month, time to rotate my stock). Nice long point cut out lugs on the AD...if you appreciate such things. These old bikes ride great. Good luck in your project.|
|thanks for the responses - my apologies to toe clip users||DaveG|
Dec 17, 2001 4:11 PM
|Thanks for the leads. I didn't realize the toe clip comment would strike such a chord. I'm not anti-toeclip I've just gotten too used to clipless and it might be hard to go back. I did use toeclips for a year or two when I first started riding.|
|Gonna back the toe clips as well...||Ahimsa|
Dec 17, 2001 4:13 PM
|I have used clipless and do not like 'em much. Oh sure there is nothing wrong with them, but I just don't like the feel or the fact that my bikes are not rideable without special shoes. I have toe clips on all my bikes. You just might find that you prefer them after riding your "retro" rig.
Dec 17, 2001 4:34 PM
|I did the same thing, renovating my 1980 Bianchi.
I think the advantages of clipless are so great it weighs in favor of doing the modern thing in this area. I did.
Consider these, which can be used as flat or SPD style clipless (I have these on my Milano): http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.html?SKU=2275&Store=Bike
|Use what you like||char|
Dec 17, 2001 9:41 PM
|Started with the toeclips on the Schwinn Varsity and then other bikes. When the Look pedals where available around 85, installed those, wow, these are great. Still have 'em.
Bought a used Eddy Merckx [c. 1982 Molteni Orange], back to toeclips [gotta keep it original], cornered the pedals a little too much, they don't turn so good now. OK. Back to the Looks. Also have Ritchey pedals on the other bikes.
I ride all the bikes either with the "Approved shoe/cleat" system or without, even down to barefoot. No big deal, just ride the bike around town doing errands or with other rides at a "social pace."
Ok, you won't get the 10-20% boost, but who cares? You are just riding around. This is not big. It's not about the pedal.