|Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||Frank|
Dec 15, 2001 9:52 PM
|I am looking for folks with experience owning Eddy Merckx steel frame road bikes to tell me how they rate them as far as other bikes they have owned.|
|that'd be me - - -||liv2padl|
Dec 16, 2001 2:24 AM
|i've had my Eddy Merckx for about 14 years now. i've upgraded the drive train but the framset is original and looks like i bought it yesterday. i also ride a Colnago Masterlite steel and have ridden a friends Lightspeed Classic numerous times for comparison. NOTHING rides like my Eddy and it will forever be my favorite ride.|
|re: Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||merckx56|
Dec 16, 2001 9:03 AM
|i have a corsa 0.1 custom painted like merckx's molteni bikes. i have built, ridden and sold three frames in the past three years and always go back to the merckx! it's comfortable, stiff, and relatively light! (19 lbs) i just got a new yeti road project race bike, but the merckx will always be the long ride, training rig. a steel merckx will outlast and out perform just about anything out there.|
|re: Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||EW|
Dec 16, 2001 3:47 PM
|Nice paint job. Where did you get it done?|
|re: Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||merckx56|
Dec 16, 2001 6:00 PM
|mark schroeder @ frame finish in tampa, florida. he used to do all of the paint work for ten speed drive imports back in the day. i got the top of the line job. he completely stripped the frame, put on four coats each of primer, paint and clear. i can't find the numbers for frame finish, but if you call open road bicycles in jacksonville (904/636-7772), they'll be able to get you the info. retail for the paintwork was @$350! next time, he's gonna paint the fork too!|
|re: Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||bike_junkie|
Dec 17, 2001 5:19 AM
|Absolutely a beautiful ride merckx56! Awesome color, Eddy would approve I'm sure! |
Any idea how the Corsa rides compared to the MXL?
I'm starting to want one...
Really a nice bike!
|corsa vs. mxl||merckx56|
Dec 17, 2001 6:11 AM
|i originally wanted a max bike, but the checkbook at that time would not agree with the wants. looking back, i should have gotten it! the corsa 0.1 has a max bottom bracket shell, so it is a bit stiffer than most steel bikes, but not nearly as stiff as a max. a max almost rides like an aluminum bike, in that it is muy stiff laterally. it is very compliant vertically though. the carbon fork (profile bsc) actually made the bike handle better and a bit more aggressively, plus it looks cool. i personally don't think you can go wrong with a steel merckx.
go to www.eddymerckx.be for the 2002 lineup. gita (merckx's importer) only brings in certain frames for stock, but can order anything.
|corsa vs. mxl||bike_junkie|
Dec 17, 2001 9:40 AM
|Is the steel fork included with the MXL a good fork? Also, how much heavier is the Max frame than the Deda 01? The Max sounds like an awesome ride - Aluminum drivetrain stiffness with steel's road feel, yummy. |
|corsa vs. mxl||gtx|
Dec 17, 2001 9:49 AM
|it's an awesome fork, designed specifcally for the MX Leader. The MX Leader frame weighs about 1/3 pound more than the Corsa. That frameset used to retail for close to $2000, but now it's dropped to $1250. It's the one to get.|
Dec 17, 2001 10:17 AM
|The Corsa 0.1 gets its name from the Dedacciai ZeroUno tubing. This is great stuff. Uses a high grade steel similar to Columbus Nivacrom which is used in the MXL. The top tube and down tube is drawn to .8mm/.5mm/.8mm with short butts. The butts are a little thicker than the MXL, which is .7/.4/.7, but the butts are quite a bit shorter. The ZeroUno tubeset is a little more dent resistant due to the thicker tubes if this is important.
BTW, unless Merckx has his ZeroUno tubes drawn to MXL specs, they will not fit into a Max bottom bracket shell. The MXL tube shapes are unique and the standard ZeroUno tube shapes are not even close to the same.
Dec 17, 2001 10:30 AM
|the chainstays are the same as the max and down tube is oversized and ovalized. the shell is in fact the same. i have both frames and they are way too similar in look and actual measured size to be different. no merckx tubing is off the shelf, standard tubing. it is all custom drawn per merckx's specs. stop by the factory if you're ever in miese, belgium, as it's quite entertaining. the man himself may even be there.|
Dec 17, 2001 12:15 PM
|So why do you think Merckx bothers to make both frames if the tubes are so similar? Sounds like a lot of trouble for nothing.|
Dec 17, 2001 2:28 PM
|the tubes themselves are similar only in size and shape where they enter the bb shell. the tubing on the max is much thinner and shaped. the fork is also matched to the frame. it's about a pound heavier than the corsa
my max is a former telekom team rig (olaf ludwig), so i don't ride it much, but it noticably stiffer than the corsa.
at the time i bought the corsa, the max was $600 more! i love them both, but the max is a "harsher" ride. not to say it's old school aluminum harsh, but less compliant vertically.
|you got some soul goin on there bro nice ride. nm||secourir|
Dec 17, 2001 6:28 AM
|re: Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||tr|
Dec 16, 2001 9:21 AM
|One of my bikes is a merckx steel and i can not say anything negative about it. Merckx makes a very durable frame and i like the geometry of his bikes. Eddy got his business going with the help of De Rosa. I don't think you would be disappointed if you bought a merckx frame.|
|re: Any Merckx steel frame owners here?||gtx|
Dec 16, 2001 10:29 AM
|well, I'd wanted one since I was in high school about 16 years ago, and finally got a used, barely-ridden frame a few years ago and built it up as my rain/winter bike. I've mostly had high end U.S. built steel, and though it lacks the crazy, spot-on build quality of, say, my Ibis, it's still a great bike. The thing that set it apart is the laid back seat tube angle, the lower bb, longer c-stays and slightly quicker handling front end, which translates to quicker slow speed handling and rock solid descending. It also feels incredibly sure and solid when climbing or sprinting out the saddle. Then there's the little stuff like the Merckx fork crown, brake bridge, etc, that are pretty darn cool. However, it's not the perfect bike for everyone--some people will find the geometry too laid back and will have trouble getting the right position on the bike. So it's more of a love/hate kind of deal. Mine's a keeper.|| |