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Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4(7 posts)

Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4mresquer
Dec 14, 2001 3:03 PM
I have an old Raleigh steel frame with has served me well these past 14 years. I have Campy 9 speed groupo and easton carbon fork with which to upgrade the bike with. I just found out SUPERGO is selling 2000 model Specialized S Works M4 frames for $299. Is this a good frame to buy or should I stick with my reliable steel frame. The cost for realigning and paint job is around $250. So the price is about eaqual.
What are some thought on this upgrade?

I also enjoy the longer 50 to 100 mile rides if that spurs any thoughts.

re: Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4C-mond
Dec 14, 2001 3:11 PM
unless you are emotionally attached with the steel frame I would go with the M4.

I love(d) mine.

And you get the kick out of a new bike. Of course you have to decide for yourself if you are a Al guy or not.
assuming...Jack S
Dec 14, 2001 3:48 PM
that the two frames have the same BB diameters and threading, front derailleur braze/clamp mount and clamp diameter, and headset diameter, then the price is about the same... consider that.
re: Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4Elefantino
Dec 14, 2001 5:43 PM
First, Supergo is only selling the M4 frames in stores. If you live in SoCal, great.

Second, I'd buy the new frame for the reasons stated above. But ride is a consideration. You like long rides and are used to old, noodly steel. The newer aluminum bikes, like the M4, ride a lot better than the old-to-recent Cannondale tanks, but it's a different feel than steel. You might like it; you might not. Depends on how big you are. I rode an M4 early last summer and loved it, and when the opportunity came along last month to buy a used-but-almost-new one, I did. But I'm 6-5 210, so I tend to bend aluminum. (My other rides are OCLV and Giant compact frame aluminum.)

Got to tell you, though, that the red is really cool. I really can't wait to finally ride the thing.

re: Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4walter
Dec 15, 2001 5:05 AM
As a bit of a retro rider I'd kind of lean towards the Raleigh. Is it 531? A discount modern frame won't ride like that. Campy, old or new, looks really good on those lugged frames also. I wouldn't change unless I was pretty sure that I liked the ride of the new frame first.
re: Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4mresquer
Dec 15, 2001 7:14 AM
Yes it's 531. I'm 6' and 215. Would my size limit me on an aluminum frame?
re: Old Steel Frame vs. 00' Specialized S Works M4walter
Dec 15, 2001 2:02 PM
I'm probably not the best to answer that. My aluminum experience is an '86 or so Cannondale I bought to ride in a college club with way back then. Having had just recently left football I weighed a bit more than you. The Cdale rode great but aluminum frames have changed alot since. There's so many out there I'm sure something would work for you.

My latest project is a Colnago Master with a Campy Record/Chorus mix. That might explain my bias towards your steel mount. Frames are much lighter today but the feel of a quality Reynolds or Columbus frame is hard to duplicate. Since I still weigh more than you a pound and a half of frame weight is irrelevant.